From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Sun Oct 26 08:36:02 2008 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Sun, 26 Oct 2008 08:36:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Ku7es-0004BH-6M for lojban-list-real@lojban.org; Sun, 26 Oct 2008 08:36:02 -0700 Received: from wa-out-1112.google.com ([209.85.146.176]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Ku7ep-0004B0-2u for lojban-list@lojban.org; Sun, 26 Oct 2008 08:36:02 -0700 Received: by wa-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id v33so1074027wah.2 for ; Sun, 26 Oct 2008 08:35:58 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding :content-disposition; bh=chGpjx7wQug8l1HJZnmCIuuCcAi1HN83GiiavijQ5Wk=; b=SY3DuwHth9J2nU8Eff27a7bc2HsaJ5akUhKqDuWZSGfY1xx9JygprJZqW0/3piYEs4 ZdUdKVuCwzh0Q0bOwrIR016AjPtHuXXOwOMX44pkIDKfYXKGGJkEOdTVll7nt6xjocIE EvNx0LjbVZEW+gj64npqLAHv0r7uOJqUTcF1Q= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=IhegTKBSTlk+h0FjNofxsJK4NFvMppqqVtJ0RPSz20exnfF5kcbBFnWf7k4iO4CSwX hPfxC8mXNuIYCNXsGnEmRcyEwdjeL1+60lQhET0b3aBOxOSdk0gXx+hCOFf1MhNoZgwg 9vzoWp79D+cZG1kr4X4Oy75UZ+vkbQ9hMqY0E= Received: by 10.114.124.1 with SMTP id w1mr4230767wac.73.1225035358066; Sun, 26 Oct 2008 08:35:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.115.16.9 with HTTP; Sun, 26 Oct 2008 08:35:57 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <2f91285f0810260835h78654a7dr11b5b5c0957bce70@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2008 16:35:57 +0100 From: tijlan To: lojban-list@lojban.org Subject: [lojban] le gusta co minde mutce MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Spam-Score: 0.0 X-Spam-Score-Int: 0 X-Spam-Bar: / X-archive-position: 14863 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: picos.picos@gmail.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-list@lojban.org X-list: lojban-list coi ro do Here's my first attempt at a short story translation: http://www.lojban.org/tiki/tiki-index.php?page=le+gusta+co+minde+mutce&bl=n&saved_msg=y It's a direct translation of a Japanese piece by Miyazawa Kenji. I intended to 1) use less shortened lujvos (e.g. {ckikykevna} instead of {kikyke'a}, except the like of {-gau} or {-kla}), 2) make use of as much cnima'o as to help register what I found to be the implicit emotional information carried by the Japanese attitudinal system, and 3) explore the experimental cmavo {sa'ei} since the original text is frequented by onomatopoeia. An unofficial English translation can be found here (and this I think is governed by a rather compromised reading): http://tonygonz.blogspot.com/2006/05/restaurant-of-many-orders-miyazawa.html Feedbacks are welcome. I also plan on translating another piece by Miyazawa titled "Night On The Milky Way Train". mu'o mi'e tijlan To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to lojban-list-request@lojban.org with the subject unsubscribe, or go to http://www.lojban.org/lsg2/, or if you're really stuck, send mail to secretary@lojban.org for help.