From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Mon Nov 10 09:37:42 2008 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Mon, 10 Nov 2008 09:37:42 -0800 (PST) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Kzahp-00089P-Nf for lojban-list-real@lojban.org; Mon, 10 Nov 2008 09:37:41 -0800 Received: from rv-out-0708.google.com ([209.85.198.243]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Kzahj-00087g-IY for lojban-list@lojban.org; Mon, 10 Nov 2008 09:37:41 -0800 Received: by rv-out-0708.google.com with SMTP id b17so2553675rvf.46 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2008 09:37:34 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=0GxcX9aqeCMGoLTnRA2/syIWhPv3FFSsx8MRTAJU65w=; b=HWCWHIddqZCaeCv6K2wjawYo8jm6abZgfhU1ql8ZfS5gZa0WqZM+E2V903qX1naHXw JupGYsGrbwK9EAVtUl0VeGOmlGziTA8zpjrWTSVepjmHv4uRYa9KUxMzU4+nQZwB2rDj 8z1+nm1cp4yRjitaURDaNOsNwAo5lu8yQ7MWs= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=hGwJVeCXu9KIBC3AarVlTU1G8TEeogAMLxrEpyyMGXCKBKd3+9U1Pv4ckNRk8pT7C7 KPkkwtu5aj65CjgaYwiMH7ipxidJBVb4h4kOAUjiH2tNkuTf4GHW/LFwCVZftiAWHIxE Z/M6qFHFWQoo3VS4bExgolhmui1/FRmaa1p8U= Received: by 10.140.158.4 with SMTP id g4mr3717836rve.160.1226338654618; Mon, 10 Nov 2008 09:37:34 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.141.194.15 with HTTP; Mon, 10 Nov 2008 09:37:34 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <925d17560811100937t285e1c1bv5132c99c439f664d@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2008 14:37:34 -0300 From: "=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jorge_Llamb=EDas?=" To: lojban-list@lojban.org Subject: [lojban] Re: le gusta co minde mutce In-Reply-To: <4de8c3930811100917r15b2157bic39665d299d0f224@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <2f91285f0810260835h78654a7dr11b5b5c0957bce70@mail.gmail.com> <200811072307.26737.phma@phma.optus.nu> <4de8c3930811080122n7f91eea3v53fc4cce02d4d343@mail.gmail.com> <925d17560811081102l72b38fefp6a3adae34d562d71@mail.gmail.com> <925d17560811100828k50ff608ehc6a5ae96446807ef@mail.gmail.com> <4de8c3930811100917r15b2157bic39665d299d0f224@mail.gmail.com> X-Spam-Score: 0.0 X-Spam-Score-Int: 0 X-Spam-Bar: / X-archive-position: 14978 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: jjllambias@gmail.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-list@lojban.org X-list: lojban-list On Mon, Nov 10, 2008 at 2:17 PM, tijlan wrote: > > In this case I think it's essential that we retain the "lo nu" parts > as we interpret the sentences: > > lo nu mi klama le zarci cu jalge lo nu mi ba te vecnu lo matne > The (actual) event "I go to the market" results from the (ideal) > event "I will buy butter". That's what I'm not sure about. Can an actual, present event be the result of an ideal, future event? mu'o mi'e xorxes To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to lojban-list-request@lojban.org with the subject unsubscribe, or go to http://www.lojban.org/lsg2/, or if you're really stuck, send mail to secretary@lojban.org for help.