From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Sat Nov 15 14:05:28 2008 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Sat, 15 Nov 2008 14:05:28 -0800 (PST) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1L1TGh-0006ps-46 for lojban-list-real@lojban.org; Sat, 15 Nov 2008 14:05:28 -0800 Received: from rv-out-0708.google.com ([209.85.198.243]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1L1TGd-0006pg-Qy for lojban-list@lojban.org; Sat, 15 Nov 2008 14:05:27 -0800 Received: by rv-out-0708.google.com with SMTP id b17so2090900rvf.46 for ; Sat, 15 Nov 2008 14:05:23 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=whYOWtGXQ70TSNOq7p3fTiEsSUEC0CviNkqGMW3OTKM=; b=uwBlnyM/CB24C3KkLousC1FZJsVNZPV4bH1x0C7SSA4ZwX/OgRiPrtJRaeaKU/GCU3 lT6jen8zEshgC8DhsKKblNURtxPcbKr3kpa0fCXDMZQEjk2AGEwwgWelsgxW4P101TVd jlMKunXjUwXhu1BIAwvak/y6PvvycRfIcqj80= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=Dpx4TashZxy5LPz4321XrM3u1BVm1764xC6k/GJq5IGZsv6tLVaVvs8hgiBVohcIi+ XlhI/IMP19Bk64mBbIDTtB+ntzEbDDObmNYYsbrEvabR66Lv0qbhBWM7xF1yWlY1Exa0 as2lfCnq/o0+Ef6b2oHMwbC0WwE5hl2NkCoh0= Received: by 10.141.48.6 with SMTP id a6mr1360227rvk.36.1226786722968; Sat, 15 Nov 2008 14:05:22 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.141.194.15 with HTTP; Sat, 15 Nov 2008 14:05:22 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <925d17560811151405j69b216b5g1b2fdaed51244418@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 15 Nov 2008 19:05:22 -0300 From: "=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jorge_Llamb=EDas?=" To: lojban-list@lojban.org Subject: [lojban] Re: Annotated PEG grammar In-Reply-To: <737b61f30811151245n352f23dala9685c894d991550@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <737b61f30811151245n352f23dala9685c894d991550@mail.gmail.com> X-Spam-Score: 0.0 X-Spam-Score-Int: 0 X-Spam-Bar: / X-archive-position: 15020 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: jjllambias@gmail.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-list@lojban.org X-list: lojban-list On Sat, Nov 15, 2008 at 5:45 PM, Chris Capel wrote: > http://pdf23ds.net/lojban/Annotated%20Grammar.html > > Here's a very unfinished version of an annotated grammar. Anybody want > to see it finished? I wouldn't mind seeing the annotations finished, I think that's a useful thing to have, but what I would really want is seeing the rules cleaned up, including some minor adjustments to the grammar. This grammar is not official yet so we do have some room to tinker. For example, why is joik-jek up there in the text rule instead of being a fragment? Presumably this dangling joik-jek is there to allow answers to je'i questions, but the proper place for such things is the fragments rule. For example, to a "ko'a ji ko'e ji ko'i" question one can answer ".e .i .e", and these are two fragments, separated by ".i". To a "broda je'i brode je'i brodi" question it is also possible to answer "je .i je", but the parse is completely different and not very sensical. Moving joik-jek to fragment requires a couple of adjustments in other rules, but I don't see any reason not to do it. BTW, the comment about free* and UI is not exactly rght. In fact UI is not an instance of free, and can occur in a few more places than free*. For example, UI can occur between CMENE and free can't. That's another thing that should be changed, free should be able to appear anywhere that it doesn't cause a problem. mu'o mi'e xorxes To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to lojban-list-request@lojban.org with the subject unsubscribe, or go to http://www.lojban.org/lsg2/, or if you're really stuck, send mail to secretary@lojban.org for help.