From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Wed Nov 19 05:03:41 2008 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Wed, 19 Nov 2008 05:03:41 -0800 (PST) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1L2mib-0004gt-1M for lojban-list-real@lojban.org; Wed, 19 Nov 2008 05:03:41 -0800 Received: from rv-out-0708.google.com ([209.85.198.248]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1L2miY-0004gl-VK for lojban-list@lojban.org; Wed, 19 Nov 2008 05:03:40 -0800 Received: by rv-out-0708.google.com with SMTP id b17so3703769rvf.46 for ; Wed, 19 Nov 2008 05:03:38 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=+HkAhCpCVMsCJE4rNjJZIzSsLX6x+AzWd2IDjImQEb4=; b=LDOT1qgweguhZoHYOg0wnT0oiIIWgwZUQfKORjay3kZ4qH/TOxtDw9vK/vysqmqq0Z axqmT4ckXKSmBy/s8jjvjogM9Zp7wuWV1YeZ7O/TBF2l3q+dktGRHeSI+pRp6CF18ZDB cON7TgSLEPnBZxvIFy6ezC84GZpX6K2CzvJmE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=S/6DhvKeNxWU8hRpkoRZJfe9DvzVk2MbgMNj3G3n1MFFgHqC5Mli0quPaVBgtPoB6U 5jwy6EOTBYssfrkYjEqKgDLucyhAxUab9DWkaUUNlsL8Pyt1o7CnzIafOhOZH3n201r5 6vZpkh6gu+MEBWCxd58LJC2OdGSx1kPFwEeeI= Received: by 10.141.28.4 with SMTP id f4mr578216rvj.164.1227099818314; Wed, 19 Nov 2008 05:03:38 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.141.194.15 with HTTP; Wed, 19 Nov 2008 05:03:38 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <925d17560811190503n795f8ca0yccb161340595b7ee@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2008 10:03:38 -0300 From: "=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jorge_Llamb=EDas?=" To: lojban-list@lojban.org Subject: [lojban] Re: more grammar discussion In-Reply-To: <737b61f30811181836h20f19138maf8cdcc22570931@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by Ecartis Content-Disposition: inline References: <737b61f30811162220l2851d26ai745a0875c3377f9b@mail.gmail.com> <925d17560811170334q71b89c65oe6fa6b3aa6e699f9@mail.gmail.com> <737b61f30811181707q39afadbcsbd0c3bfb61f4f807@mail.gmail.com> <925d17560811181728qe052fc8h50431662af8132e4@mail.gmail.com> <737b61f30811181836h20f19138maf8cdcc22570931@mail.gmail.com> X-Spam-Score: 0.0 X-Spam-Score-Int: 0 X-Spam-Bar: / X-archive-position: 15060 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: jjllambias@gmail.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-list@lojban.org X-list: lojban-list On Tue, Nov 18, 2008 at 11:36 PM, Chris Capel wrote: > On Tue, Nov 18, 2008 at 19:28, Jorge Llambías wrote: >> On Tue, Nov 18, 2008 at 10:07 PM, Chris Capel wrote: >>> OK, what about this one: >>> >>>> sumti-tail-1 <- selbri relatives? / quantifier selbri relatives? / quantifier sumti >>> >>> becomes >>> >>> sumti-tail-1 <- quantifier? selbri relatives? / quantifier sumti >> >> What happens with the sumti-tail "pa moi"? > > Hmm. I see your point. Actually, I don't really have a point. "quantifier" is: quantifier <- number !MOI BOI? free* / VEI free* mex VEhO? free* So "quantifier?" won't grab the "number" of "number MOI". Your simplification should work. >But check this out: > >> selbri-6 <- tanru-unit (BO free* selbri-6)? / NAhE? free* guhek selbri gik selbri-6 > > Another instance of gek (or guhek) not letting its second clause as > flexible as its first. Yes, another ugliness. mu'o mi'e xorxes To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to lojban-list-request@lojban.org with the subject unsubscribe, or go to http://www.lojban.org/lsg2/, or if you're really stuck, send mail to secretary@lojban.org for help.