From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Thu Dec 25 19:10:13 2008 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Thu, 25 Dec 2008 19:10:14 -0800 (PST) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1LG35Z-0006V5-J8 for lojban-list-real@lojban.org; Thu, 25 Dec 2008 19:10:13 -0800 Received: from mail-ew0-f21.google.com ([209.85.219.21]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1LG35T-0006Qm-7V for lojban-list@lojban.org; Thu, 25 Dec 2008 19:10:13 -0800 Received: by ewy14 with SMTP id 14so4085062ewy.10 for ; Thu, 25 Dec 2008 19:10:01 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:sender :to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references :x-google-sender-auth; bh=esHR9ufwIwJuvVmwGEj0s9fh9K1OHimow1avtpVhqrU=; b=wm6GfQbZjW5XylQgAAOcfh42oyGrHUts2sv4oZ3QRyQsqhxV9J2wufH8FO7jnrOpgM Y7zG+n0REby2F35ifJqC64RgheJQKWLhYME22BdUaz6GRXyTYr4fHMWcejdkc6nnFh6b y6NZ17Uq16kZFSPM0MhgPrQA0f7LPiETCMOsc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references:x-google-sender-auth; b=b2EGAJo1XsPpSy6Y5OrFVWuoPqm9rnOiC1spKGNL0rm1GNlhLNk4BK7o38ivzgTV2X 0FQpD+o+uebNBDtflWjqujB3LURQ44lMaLIypC5kfpZIftuwcyvY8facJ5/uhM20g7Zy +c+4JYGcZe3ds2F5tH/nOXA/cl5w26MNFWf38= Received: by 10.210.58.13 with SMTP id g13mr12051431eba.76.1230261000959; Thu, 25 Dec 2008 19:10:00 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.210.129.1 with HTTP; Thu, 25 Dec 2008 19:10:00 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <3ccac5f10812251910v25fc914dw423f5eb75340e883@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 26 Dec 2008 06:10:00 +0300 From: "Cyril Slobin" To: lojban-list@lojban.org Subject: [lojban] Re: gleki xisri'i In-Reply-To: <3ccac5f10812251856pf15a220jccffd56f0fb1a5a@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <20081225043944.GA29775@sdf.lonestar.org> <20081225094052.GH10930@digitalkingdom.org> <20081225194149.GA28595@sdf.lonestar.org> <3ccac5f10812251622v5e4d1389mfc03381c6d041f5f@mail.gmail.com> <3ccac5f10812251650l45c44633ufbdbd196ec2a8771@mail.gmail.com> <20081226012107.GB7051@sdf.lonestar.org> <3ccac5f10812251856pf15a220jccffd56f0fb1a5a@mail.gmail.com> X-Google-Sender-Auth: 3de9016c755718d6 X-Spam-Score: -0.0 X-Spam-Score-Int: 0 X-Spam-Bar: / X-archive-position: 15155 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: cyril@slobin.pp.ru Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-list@lojban.org X-list: lojban-list Cyril (me) said: > Neither Wirth nor Kernighan and Ritchie said "always reduce", "Always shift", of course. Just a typo. Minimiscience said: > A Lojban parser must absorb as many tokens as possible into the current > (innermost) grammatical construct, stopping only when it encounters either > a terminator or a token that cannot continue the construct. This is the current practice, and this is a good practice, but CLL contains no such words. CLL contains words about "unambiguity", and reader not aware of current practice will not necessary read it as "try to stretch the innermost construct as long as possible". In fact the first does not mean the second. What we need is to approve this or similar wording, and say it explicitly. -- http://slobin.pp.ru/ `When I use a word,' Humpty Dumpty said, `it means just what I choose it to mean' To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to lojban-list-request@lojban.org with the subject unsubscribe, or go to http://www.lojban.org/lsg2/, or if you're really stuck, send mail to secretary@lojban.org for help.