From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Wed Feb 11 03:50:57 2009 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Wed, 11 Feb 2009 03:50:58 -0800 (PST) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1LXDcH-0002NB-8D for lojban-list-real@lojban.org; Wed, 11 Feb 2009 03:50:57 -0800 Received: from mail-qy0-f20.google.com ([209.85.221.20]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1LXDc9-0002Jy-Kg for lojban-list@lojban.org; Wed, 11 Feb 2009 03:50:57 -0800 Received: by qyk13 with SMTP id 13so370944qyk.10 for ; Wed, 11 Feb 2009 03:50:43 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=H6c/wsdTb2hZvJTwbCGhtYO+qMdrhXHF7dW6/iuVL4M=; b=dYgm8jCcDfugrGpU7mMp7aWaW0Wmj24CWY8Kz48rIVPJlKfvvxgxh+QK3pZsOVu2lQ Ki1DikU9fvTTZnnW46PmHkjmTEBEXueS5f5go6Z6NL/KOSaUTSQSo+Sxpc16gxTDBlg4 qRvPshzajhA2TUml9smkg7iaY4mVH4q91WrVQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=N8gMX3keU4fieaZw9g5hQtpSf9YCcP7Z4J8MgolyCu0rTFLr0Md/38ztJewdrYltPi nFvc8/jtVhC7gzw9eulI2T9uS1m/zYl/3Tgntl2uls7n4yvLrdUDsPZI7VaXYdtu0fe0 vo5w0LvZr+zsXYzMcAfACdlkD4b8VEUw/oOGU= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.229.73.193 with SMTP id r1mr600542qcj.53.1234353043352; Wed, 11 Feb 2009 03:50:43 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <737b61f30902102033q6e6bde53l659b817d2eb3883b@mail.gmail.com> References: <737b61f30902081336g2818a979sf6a6db307e512c75@mail.gmail.com> <925d17560902091531k16bf93efk7113996d5f786767@mail.gmail.com> <737b61f30902091642h7e41234ufc1bdd8e7ddb5f6c@mail.gmail.com> <925d17560902100411mc814179h1930114009ce8641@mail.gmail.com> <737b61f30902100846g265c604ard1706b5924b4636@mail.gmail.com> <925d17560902100923x15068ee0pbf72da0f1220ac01@mail.gmail.com> <737b61f30902102033q6e6bde53l659b817d2eb3883b@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 11 Feb 2009 08:50:43 -0300 Message-ID: <925d17560902110350t31a3f156u89b4c00c06367d69@mail.gmail.com> Subject: [lojban] Re: CFG prize challenge question From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jorge_Llamb=EDas?= To: lojban-list@lojban.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by Ecartis X-Spam-Score: 0.0 X-Spam-Score-Int: 0 X-Spam-Bar: / X-archive-position: 15293 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: jjllambias@gmail.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-list@lojban.org X-list: lojban-list On Wed, Feb 11, 2009 at 1:33 AM, Chris Capel wrote: > On Tue, Feb 10, 2009 at 11:23, Jorge Llambías wrote: >> >> sentence = [terms [CU]] selbri [terms] /VAU/ >> >> terms = [terms] sumti >> >> sumti = KOhA | LE selbri /KU/ >> >> selbri = [selbri] tanru-unit >> >> tanru-unit = BRIVLA | NU sentence /KEI/ > > So making 1=sentence, 2 = le, 3 = KOhA, 4 = nu, 5 = BRIVLA, the > allowable nestings (parent--child) would be 1--2, 1--3, 2--4, 2--5, > 4--1. Also: 1-4 and 1-5? How can you tell for example that (1 (3 )3 (5 )5 (3 )3 )1 is valid but (1 (3 )3 (3 )3 )1 is not valid for this grammar? Is the set of valid phrases just given, in addition to the allowable nestings, at this point? How is the role of CU taken into account? It's presence/absence will play a role in whether a preceding )2 can be elided or not. mu'o mi'e xorxes To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to lojban-list-request@lojban.org with the subject unsubscribe, or go to http://www.lojban.org/lsg2/, or if you're really stuck, send mail to secretary@lojban.org for help.