From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Sat Mar 14 17:59:23 2009 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Sat, 14 Mar 2009 17:59:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1LiehH-0003UO-M3 for lojban-list-real@lojban.org; Sat, 14 Mar 2009 17:59:23 -0700 Received: from yx-out-1718.google.com ([74.125.44.154]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1LiehF-0003Tc-5h for lojban-list@lojban.org; Sat, 14 Mar 2009 17:59:23 -0700 Received: by yx-out-1718.google.com with SMTP id 3so529379yxi.46 for ; Sat, 14 Mar 2009 17:59:20 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=BwyhwuqBY1apYAst55iAjv3YphsPHY1zYFV6/LmvDW0=; b=hrCpJwNljnRMXc4sWALSaZYY8b0215hze7/Q1DEFcdZUqoJBvEz14Nz5vUMN6RQ67A udzJoE4zBAmqwJU68/xhnLFFwkG9a0C2DZZmy3hBlGm/EIf7ZZzEdRt3zzIRTY8nSrCd UTy5b0FedXYRXjHNJ4+4vJfYXmrQVEXbPKQLA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=KSq0c+Y27G+dkCAOdufLcIErGNB7ulv+/jN6Mnv44vhKswocZAgTJNP02A4Qytry8a o40TUAe5lHmVlPy6vkcAIxOnVIK0gMliiVhT9FnKAH+IH7fQzuIx5X5QQoG3vpAM0kYV o90+uPnBzt60yBverapHMu4hL80utOsUC3tFc= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.220.95.68 with SMTP id c4mr989609vcn.25.1237078760095; Sat, 14 Mar 2009 17:59:20 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <090C145A-ABCA-447D-A14D-B5F07372BA9A@gmail.com> References: <090C145A-ABCA-447D-A14D-B5F07372BA9A@gmail.com> Date: Sat, 14 Mar 2009 20:59:20 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: [lojban] Re: Newbie questions From: Minimiscience To: lojban-list@lojban.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by Ecartis X-Spam-Score: 0.0 X-Spam-Score-Int: 0 X-Spam-Bar: / X-archive-position: 15368 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: minimiscience@gmail.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-list@lojban.org X-list: lojban-list I don't think this e-mail was sent properly the first time, so I'm trying again. On Mar 14, 2009, at 7:34 PM, robert wrote: > I'm a total n00b to Lojban, so I apologize in advance for any questions inappropriate to > this forum. The reason I'm posting here instead of the "Beginners Mailing List" is that the > link to that list appears to be broken in the wiki (see the link on this page: > [http://www.lojban.org/tiki/tiki-index.php?page=Lojbanic+Forums&bl=y]). Just so you know, the "forum" on the tiki is just a web interface to the mailing lists, which you can subscribe to properly at . > Q1: Did I use gugde, tcadu, and nenri correctly? Yes, though I don't think "{la frans. nenri la .iurop.}" is technically correct. "{nenri}" means total containment, and I'm pretty sure France controls some islands in the Pacific and possibly elsewhere as well (I don't know about Italy, though).  "{se vasru}" can be used instead for containment that's not necessary total. > Q2: Are there universally accepted city, country, and other political grouping names? Universally accepted in the Lojban community or throughout the world? In Lojban,  countries that have cultural {gismu} assigned can have {lujvo} for names; for example, France can be referred to as "{la fasygug.}" or "{la fasygu'e}" ("French country"). > Q3: Does Lojban really just run all the sentences together? No.  Sentences are supposed to be separated with "{.i}" (or "{ni'o}" for paragraphs). > Q3a: When parsing .... la paris. tcadu. la romas. tcadu. .... is backtracking expected > upon hitting the second "tcadu" so that "la paris. tcadu. la romas." is not interpreted as > "Paris is a city of metropolitan area Rome"? See the answer to the previous question. mu'omi'e .kamymecraijun. -- ()  me la .asycy'i'ic. dasri nungazdau fi loi me la xytymylyl. samxa'a /\  di'o la'o jy. www.asciiribbon.org .jy. fi loi posysivni datnytai minxa'a To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to lojban-list-request@lojban.org with the subject unsubscribe, or go to http://www.lojban.org/lsg2/, or if you're really stuck, send mail to secretary@lojban.org for help.