From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Sun Apr 12 15:48:50 2009 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Sun, 12 Apr 2009 15:48:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Lt8Tq-0003Q9-3r for lojban-list-real@lojban.org; Sun, 12 Apr 2009 15:48:50 -0700 Received: from an-out-0708.google.com ([209.85.132.243]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Lt8Tn-0003Po-Ew for lojban-list@lojban.org; Sun, 12 Apr 2009 15:48:50 -0700 Received: by an-out-0708.google.com with SMTP id d14so1750542and.1 for ; Sun, 12 Apr 2009 15:48:46 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=Ba/a7tKCcunn4ClIdZOaSO0p/Qm5zQU9rjJauVcVlyk=; b=jie7mUAZhaLRE8rSoKx8lZkWq6t9ZaSWAqtN3wYNtbnLZ/2x0YDZihPRXgAq9HXWCx rIj2Fk07l76Gc15TNUZIE6Pi50ko6yqbhAlPl9w/0Y1y9dfAhXJye6vfu36Vu+61d08J ht+yFEs59WXHvBVXNbcOA7lEfpkZmMe5+2Guk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=xCgv4OpVJvw3Tis9Jt/qil0npIMUBDpZnmNHm0MkqfZ6J/jgoD/oVSvfy9Kekjd/NB sUrUCv/AxNjMiVEycx9qrjBgcbpmdrJE1BJHbDHs8M8IXmpeev/vS/Rd/LEUtuB+RDWc xLy2W4op0GBGI9SsWQ866Cjhojg9porUzabfU= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.100.140.15 with SMTP id n15mr6279216and.83.1239576526030; Sun, 12 Apr 2009 15:48:46 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20090412173712.GM12975@digitalkingdom.org> References: <200904102043.20893.phma@phma.optus.nu> <20090412094212.GH12975@digitalkingdom.org> <925d17560904120740w668f755bi64ddfbc41856be45@mail.gmail.com> <20090412173712.GM12975@digitalkingdom.org> Date: Sun, 12 Apr 2009 19:48:45 -0300 Message-ID: <925d17560904121548w7953ee98x3cc88e5425cb1955@mail.gmail.com> Subject: [lojban] Re: Translations For Penguicon Lojban Festival From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jorge_Llamb=EDas?= To: lojban-list@lojban.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by Ecartis X-Spam_score: -1.3 X-Spam_score_int: -12 X-Spam_bar: - X-Spam_report: Spam detection software, running on the system "chain.digitalkingdom.org", has identified this incoming email as possible spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it (if it isn't spam) or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details. Content preview: On Sun, Apr 12, 2009 at 2:37 PM, Robin Lee Powell wrote: > On Sun, Apr 12, 2009 at 11:40:40AM -0300, Jorge Llambías wrote: >> On Sun, Apr 12, 2009 at 6:42 AM, Robin Lee Powell wrote: >> > On Fri, Apr 10, 2009 at 08:43:20PM -0400, Pierre Abbat wrote: >> >> >> >> rapcreze'a tu'a la lojban. >> > >> > Practicers Of Lojban >> > >> > (I respect observatives; sorry xorxes) >> >> Not sure what you mean. "Observatives" is just a strange name >> given to bridi without an explicit x1. What does it mean to >> "respect" them? Are you saying I don't respect them? I certainly >> use them too. > > IIRC you don't like to treat them specially, as indicating an > observation of something that could fit the x1. [...] Content analysis details: (-1.3 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -2.6 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayesian spam probability is 0 to 1% [score: 0.0000] 1.3 AWL AWL: From: address is in the auto white-list X-archive-position: 15458 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: jjllambias@gmail.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-list@lojban.org X-list: lojban-list On Sun, Apr 12, 2009 at 2:37 PM, Robin Lee Powell wrote: > On Sun, Apr 12, 2009 at 11:40:40AM -0300, Jorge Llambías wrote: >> On Sun, Apr 12, 2009 at 6:42 AM, Robin Lee Powell wrote: >> > On Fri, Apr 10, 2009 at 08:43:20PM -0400, Pierre Abbat wrote: >> >> >> >> rapcreze'a tu'a la lojban. >> > >> > Practicers Of Lojban >> > >> > (I respect observatives; sorry xorxes) >> >> Not sure what you mean. "Observatives" is just a strange name >> given to bridi without an explicit x1. What does it mean to >> "respect" them? Are you saying I don't respect them? I certainly >> use them too. > > IIRC you don't like to treat them specially, as indicating an > observation of something that could fit the x1. I don't treat them as if they carry an implicit "za'a", no. And the relationship is always between all the arguments, x1, x2, x3, etc, whether they are stated explicitly or not. "rapcreze'a tu'a la lojban" and "tu'a la lojban cu se rapcreze'a" say basically the same thing. > Perhaps that was someone else. You probably remember right that I made a comment some time that bridi with zo'e in x1 don't need a special name, and "observative" is not a very good choice in any case. mu'o mi'e xorxes To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to lojban-list-request@lojban.org with the subject unsubscribe, or go to http://www.lojban.org/lsg2/, or if you're really stuck, send mail to secretary@lojban.org for help.