From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Mon Apr 20 17:27:26 2009 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Mon, 20 Apr 2009 17:27:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Lw3pe-0002y7-2d for lojban-list-real@lojban.org; Mon, 20 Apr 2009 17:27:26 -0700 Received: from imr-m07.mx.aol.com ([64.12.138.209]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Lw3pa-0002xo-QD for lojban-list@lojban.org; Mon, 20 Apr 2009 17:27:25 -0700 Received: from imo-da02.mx.aol.com (imo-da02.mx.aol.com [205.188.169.200]) by imr-m07.mx.aol.com (v107.10) with ESMTP id RELAYIN2-349ed12d91de; Mon, 20 Apr 2009 20:27:05 -0400 Received: from MorphemeAddict@wmconnect.com by imo-da02.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v40_r1.5.) id d.cbe.3befe7b7 (65100) for ; Mon, 20 Apr 2009 20:26:46 -0400 (EDT) From: MorphemeAddict@wmconnect.com Message-ID: Date: Mon, 20 Apr 2009 20:26:46 EDT Subject: [lojban] Re: Gender neutrality? To: lojban-list@lojban.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_cbe.3befe7b7.371e6cc6_boundary" X-Mailer: 6.0 for Windows XP sub 11501 X-Spam-Flag:NO X-AOL-IP: 205.188.169.200 X-archive-position: 15487 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: MorphemeAddict@wmconnect.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-list@lojban.org X-list: lojban-list --part1_cbe.3befe7b7.371e6cc6_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 4/20/2009 16:36:14 Eastern Daylight Time, danny.piccirillo@gmail.com writes: > Yes, but in conversation people often like to say, "Did you see that > girl?" instead of "Did you see that person?". Things like that. My request is > that lujvo for gender identities should replace words meaning biological sex > in casual conversation since it will come up. Can that happen? Does > anybody else see this as something that should happen? > I don't think it should. But it's always an option for individuals. How do you know the mental gender identity of a given person? How often does it not correspond with a person's biological gender, assuming that to be a simple male/female dichotomy? stevo --part1_cbe.3befe7b7.371e6cc6_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable In a messag= e dated 4/20/2009 16:36:14 Eastern Daylight Time, danny.piccirillo@gmail.c= om writes:


Yes, but in conversatio= n people often like to say, "Did you see that girl?" instead of "Did you= see that person?". Things like that. My request is that lujvo for gender= identities should replace words meaning biological sex in casual conversa= tion since it will come up. Can that happen? Does anybody else see this as= something that should happen?


I don't think it should.  But it's always an option for individua= ls.  
How do you know the mental gender identity of a given person?  Ho= w often does it not correspond with a person's biological gender, assuming= that to be a simple male/female dichotomy?

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