From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Mon Jul 06 15:40:49 2009 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Mon, 06 Jul 2009 15:40:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1MNwrh-0002Tp-JU for lojban-list-real@lojban.org; Mon, 06 Jul 2009 15:40:49 -0700 Received: from mail-vw0-f202.google.com ([209.85.212.202]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1MNwrd-0002Su-5F for lojban-list@lojban.org; Mon, 06 Jul 2009 15:40:49 -0700 Received: by vwj40 with SMTP id 40so3254983vwj.28 for ; Mon, 06 Jul 2009 15:40:38 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=u+BE6eTqq4fRAkkLh5uuGhnz8jdV4nbOBUEieieishM=; b=JYeWYJvQUClD/lCsjSHNuWXrFWdzVnn8KZE7Pn3zugvB3Wi8GFeQzKel43sKeOQAbE HfqvJPAqjTUTFMN/G8o1CcyPva1KdHbCaXeoR7D5WpJyKKK1nnsg+3ZGOisDRAK03Y5W oBQ3s7t1vC8ZqSJKYRSZEpUNpVxqlLnfmS/tg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=xtBbWB5RVd1pbGvg/ZW7YKsPH0NRlsygTa0EypNYUZKGYDBZGiAU7X5nNuGfRsjPGD ZkeHRgJsG9TI0QONjh7Vju/PNaws/2NVOGmjM5opwbubhfd2K3YmNNzGyRMSBy/v9CDH czNWCqfNKuyh9mByen0BpzJltQVxoY8ZJcGd8= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.220.92.14 with SMTP id p14mr10590077vcm.92.1246920038857; Mon, 06 Jul 2009 15:40:38 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20090706221840.GA25319@sdf.lonestar.org> References: <5715b9300907061511i235db06aw29796806ba848d1e@mail.gmail.com> <20090706221840.GA25319@sdf.lonestar.org> Date: Mon, 6 Jul 2009 18:40:38 -0400 Message-ID: <5715b9300907061540i62ad61e1pe123d4c0d7da1abd@mail.gmail.com> Subject: [lojban] Re: zo si si si From: Luke Bergen To: lojban-list@lojban.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016e64695acfabcf3046e113139 X-archive-position: 15729 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: lukeabergen@gmail.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-list@lojban.org X-list: lojban-list --0016e64695acfabcf3046e113139 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Ok. So, when one encounters multiple {si}s they should count how many there are {X}(unless the first is being quoted) and count backwards {X} valsi and erase all of them and all of the {si}s. Otherwise there would be no way of {si}ing a {zo}. I would have expected it to behave like a (-1)^x where the bridi bounces back and forth between "... zo" and "... zo si" for each new {si} added. It seems somewhat counter-intuitive but I can see the neccessity of it. - Luke Bergen On Mon, Jul 6, 2009 at 6:18 PM, Minimiscience wrote: > de'i li 06 pi'e 07 pi'e 2009 la'o fy. Luke Bergen .fy. cusku zoi > skamyxatra. > > does "mi cusku zo si si si" mean "I say 'si' ", "I say", "", or > > something else entirely? > .skamyxatra > > It's grammatically equivalent to "{mi cusku}." See section 19.13 of the > CLL > for an explanation. > > mu'omi'e .kamymecraijun. > > -- > loi jetnu ka'e bartu .ije ku'i loi jitfa cu nenri lo stedu be do > > > To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to lojban-list-request@lojban.org > with the subject unsubscribe, or go to http://www.lojban.org/lsg2/, or if > you're really stuck, send mail to secretary@lojban.org for help. > > --0016e64695acfabcf3046e113139 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Ok.=A0 So, when one encounters multiple {si}s they should count how many th= ere are {X}(unless the first is being quoted) and count backwards {X} valsi= and erase all of them and all of the {si}s.=A0 Otherwise there would be no= way of {si}ing a {zo}.

I would have expected it to behave like a (-1)^x=A0 where the bridi bounces back and forth between "... zo" and "... zo si"= for each new {si} added.

It seems somewhat counter-intuitive but I can see the ne= ccessity of it.

- Luke Bergen


On Mon, Jul 6, 2009 at 6:18 PM, Minimisc= ience <mini= miscience@gmail.com> wrote:
de'i li 06 pi'e 07 pi'e 2009 la'o fy. Luke Bergen .fy. cusk= u zoi skamyxatra.
> does "mi cusku zo si si si" mean "I s= ay 'si' ", "I say", "", or
> something else entirely?
.skamyxatra

It's grammatically equivalent to "{mi cusku}." =A0See section= 19.13 of the CLL
for an explanation.

mu'omi'e .kamymecraijun.

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