From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Tue Jul 07 20:04:21 2009 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Tue, 07 Jul 2009 20:04:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1MONSH-0001Bh-5n for lojban-list-real@lojban.org; Tue, 07 Jul 2009 20:04:21 -0700 Received: from mail-gx0-f220.google.com ([209.85.217.220]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1MONSD-0001B9-BE for lojban-list@lojban.org; Tue, 07 Jul 2009 20:04:20 -0700 Received: by gxk20 with SMTP id 20so13385670gxk.10 for ; Tue, 07 Jul 2009 20:04:11 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=FZoGm6prxOHrkWzZxkqujD+/6He0qK5uQ0DRyRzpTgI=; b=MCIZtrEoL962KhYdz3R8K1Cb8Nm6/mSl2ecDG8NxhdKXLK45q7vWhDx60zIUcq5rsI 6pevlQJmM6ZlPN9TAyOknogSzFvEglb8wxfnu12t0vuYGMYjf5UY+faNriIH4Tlcy1e8 B0LwjqhTwlrHIbMqKMU6+h6mrX7TUuraS+q04= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=p8MXPBSW0A2sNQWd05pMWh6K+D+4mU/xo79Kblj3xj9/XOeLjk5SE1vosKCjkBiddi cR5VV4mxCKqiVIH/wk842jeXYUJ3szFiflOZ0nAqIUl3t9GIekNAuPbdQ4raNgugL/Mq Jtq4/5RCx4YUqj/BQ2W199FRoJBzWBr9oPHCM= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.151.38.12 with SMTP id q12mr1030174ybj.166.1247022251097; Tue, 07 Jul 2009 20:04:11 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <737b61f30907071948v1bad13f1w51ae22dfedf0d90b@mail.gmail.com> References: <737b61f30907071923k3fce033chbd8b0aaa6617341f@mail.gmail.com> <96f789a60907071928i565a727u211c2532ecbe2989@mail.gmail.com> <737b61f30907071948v1bad13f1w51ae22dfedf0d90b@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 7 Jul 2009 23:04:11 -0400 Message-ID: <96f789a60907072004v3e46cf43oe85c07f03a3b4cbc@mail.gmail.com> Subject: [lojban] Re: be, bei? From: Michael Turniansky To: lojban-list@lojban.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by Ecartis X-archive-position: 15745 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: mturniansky@gmail.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-list@lojban.org X-list: lojban-list On Tue, Jul 7, 2009 at 10:48 PM, Chris Capel wrote: > On Tue, Jul 7, 2009 at 21:28, Michael Turniansky wrote: >> On Tue, Jul 7, 2009 at 10:23 PM, Chris Capel wrote: >>> Why is bei grammatically necessary? Why not make {broda lo brode be la >>> alis. la djan be'o} legal? >> >>   Well, I guess you could, but then be'o would basically never be >> elidable except at the end of an utterance > > Ahh, I see. And as it is, be'o is almost always elidable, right? > Right, unless the last thing in the list is a brivla that's followed (out of the be-be'o) by a brivla. And since many many times you will only be linking a single item, it makes more sense to let be'o be elidable since you won't often need that bei anyhow (not because of eliability, but because you're not often linking up that many sumti --gejyspa To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to lojban-list-request@lojban.org with the subject unsubscribe, or go to http://www.lojban.org/lsg2/, or if you're really stuck, send mail to secretary@lojban.org for help.