From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Tue Jul 21 04:54:00 2009 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Tue, 21 Jul 2009 04:54:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1MTDuy-0000BP-0r for lojban-list-real@lojban.org; Tue, 21 Jul 2009 04:54:00 -0700 Received: from eastrmmtao106.cox.net ([68.230.240.48]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1MTDut-0000AU-MG for lojban-list@lojban.org; Tue, 21 Jul 2009 04:53:59 -0700 Received: from eastrmimpo03.cox.net ([68.1.16.126]) by eastrmmtao106.cox.net (InterMail vM.7.08.02.01 201-2186-121-102-20070209) with ESMTP id <20090721115349.IBOV28892.eastrmmtao106.cox.net@eastrmimpo03.cox.net> for ; Tue, 21 Jul 2009 07:53:49 -0400 Received: from [192.168.1.101] ([70.187.235.94]) by eastrmimpo03.cox.net with bizsmtp id Jbto1c00G22sj6m02bto7F; Tue, 21 Jul 2009 07:53:49 -0400 X-VR-Score: -150.00 X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=WtrpGotwr8cA:10 a=VVlED5B4AAAA:8 a=UFTA8MH_AAAA:8 a=R6VSoIpEAAAA:8 a=AvmXXtD176ErnCMMpwsA:9 a=6RKgsAp2k5qHaUoU_lsA:7 a=1uNUKfiQSFYA7eKlUm3sTzHIDP8A:4 a=BFDKbZatV3MA:10 X-CM-Score: 0.00 Message-ID: <4A65AC46.9080708@lojban.org> Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2009 07:53:42 -0400 From: Bob LeChevalier User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.7 (Windows/20050923) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: lojban-list@lojban.org Subject: [lojban] Re: Academic background on Lojban References: <20090721110553.244170@gmx.net> In-Reply-To: <20090721110553.244170@gmx.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-archive-position: 15790 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: lojbab@lojban.org Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-list@lojban.org X-list: lojban-list klaus612@gmx.net wrote: > Hello all, > > I am new to Lojban, and I'd like to know a bit more about the academic background of it. More specifically, I'd like to know where I can find scientific publications about Lojban, and maybe a list of academic researchers or academic projects working on Lojban-related topics. I have not been able to find this information on the Lojban website. Honestly, there aren't any. We would like that there be some, but until we get a much larger speaker base, there likely won't be. There have been a couple of academic papers written with reference to Lojban, but they really are minor. They are possibly on the website somewhere - one was by Ivan Derzhanski on types of tanru (some of the paper was added to the tanru chapter of CLL - I don't know if the paper was published in any academic publication) and a couple were by Nick Nicholas - from his web page: Nicholas, N. 1996a. Lojban as a Machine Translation Interlanguage in the Pacific. Fourth Pacific Rim International Conference on Artificial Intelligence: Workshop on 'Future Issues for Multilingual Text Processing', Cairns, Australia, 27 August 1996. 31-39.* (the cite on the page is invalid - but the following has a good link to a cached PDF) http://citeseerx.ist.psu.edu/viewdoc/summary?doi=10.1.1.55.5331 Nicholas, N. 2002. Folk Functionalism in Planned Language: The Long-Distance Reflexive vo'a in Lojban. Journal of Universal Language 3:1. 133-167. http://www.unish.org/unish/DOWN/PDF/Nick_Nicholas(133~167).pdf In looking for a copy of the former, I found http://citeseerx.ist.psu.edu/viewdoc/summary?doi=10.1.1.21.9704 which apparently has a reference to Lojban, but I haven't read the paper. I have one academic project based on testing the relationship between learnability of words and the recognition score that was used in wordmaking, but I haven't worked on it in years, and I would likely pass it to someone else who was interested, and who had a better statistical background than I have. We did some planning for a preliminary experiment for a Sapir-Whorf test, but we never actually tried it. lojbab To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to lojban-list-request@lojban.org with the subject unsubscribe, or go to http://www.lojban.org/lsg2/, or if you're really stuck, send mail to secretary@lojban.org for help.