From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Sun Jul 26 07:11:57 2009 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Sun, 26 Jul 2009 07:11:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1MV4SD-0006X3-I5 for lojban-list-real@lojban.org; Sun, 26 Jul 2009 07:11:57 -0700 Received: from eastrmmtao104.cox.net ([68.230.240.46]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1MV4S7-0006RA-J8 for lojban-list@lojban.org; Sun, 26 Jul 2009 07:11:57 -0700 Received: from eastrmimpo01.cox.net ([68.1.16.119]) by eastrmmtao104.cox.net (InterMail vM.7.08.02.01 201-2186-121-102-20070209) with ESMTP id <20090726141145.PUE5576.eastrmmtao104.cox.net@eastrmimpo01.cox.net> for ; Sun, 26 Jul 2009 10:11:45 -0400 Received: from [192.168.1.101] ([70.187.235.94]) by eastrmimpo01.cox.net with bizsmtp id LeBk1c00H22sj6m02eBkxB; Sun, 26 Jul 2009 10:11:45 -0400 X-VR-Score: -100.00 X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=FiHkjX2v7ocA:10 a=az4EzujEsyZDZ225DS0A:9 a=VU8P6sUsOuta3BVqmgnMKv9tWQgA:4 X-CM-Score: 0.00 Message-ID: <4A6C641E.2020104@lojban.org> Date: Sun, 26 Jul 2009 10:11:42 -0400 From: Bob LeChevalier User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.7 (Windows/20050923) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: lojban-list@lojban.org Subject: [lojban] Re: Philosophical differences. References: <126025.43169.qm@web50408.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <228475.79712.qm@web81304.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <4A6B38D4.80606@lojban.org> <330956.40087.qm@web81306.mail.mud.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <330956.40087.qm@web81306.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-archive-position: 15803 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: lojbab@lojban.org Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-list@lojban.org X-list: lojban-list John E Clifford wrote: > But English never does anything officially, since there is no official to do it. And if there were, the controversy level would be much higher. People have unofficially added gismu and cmavo to Lojban, and deleting them unofficially consists simply of nt using them. It is the desire to change the official list that creates controversy. > Does anyone feel the need to learn all the words of Lojban? Maybe > all the gismu and a lot of the cmavo, but probably not even that at > the start. "all the gismu and a lot of the cmavo" is precisely why that is the set that is baselined. No, they don't need it at the start, but those of us who reached that point of learning those words have a substantial investment, and thus strongly resist change. lojbab To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to lojban-list-request@lojban.org with the subject unsubscribe, or go to http://www.lojban.org/lsg2/, or if you're really stuck, send mail to secretary@lojban.org for help.