From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Mon Aug 03 12:36:38 2009 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Mon, 03 Aug 2009 12:36:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1MY3Kl-0008DK-U5 for lojban-list-real@lojban.org; Mon, 03 Aug 2009 12:36:37 -0700 Received: from web81305.mail.mud.yahoo.com ([68.142.199.121]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with smtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1MY3Kd-0008AH-2S for lojban-list@lojban.org; Mon, 03 Aug 2009 12:36:35 -0700 Received: (qmail 64880 invoked by uid 60001); 3 Aug 2009 19:36:20 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1249328179; bh=4DU/P0ydMvX2d9FxiZVnHmvSBsjaPhxv8Gks9zhx/ls=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=wasXO9qd2WDM7S58sKJZZL4ZUhN5wz8J0wHOBVMXJfBJoSWUAG5I/9mfBFIR7PvVmpXivVYWT9MLRmVnrKm7O6TIhoKkXjh+csQPVap7zd3gYyTNWQTzBVhe6v0MqnaR8Toeb83AQL5MD5nv/DRGS1RpTl2Mvve++2/YAFP/x4o= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=HZiahEIdBSdhJODXpSZjuR3kw5eVY0Odjn6sTGv1f+T98ocr+daEDVPLcPDVUlnSLqrb0SW0T+wkta0BbFo3kt5MJwVLO2ecVcrumM4ERtjgToTDlQdgqJftRRMNaXmE1gUO2WpFGHpBHEe+2127wLGx6GCILZbxpBDbJkojpVk=; Message-ID: <916753.53871.qm@web81305.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: LxxpuTEVM1nO8kmjhpDZWdnqXXbUssKCeXJ.ZBtj4h8VGZv9GC21sfloVCGW6RyJwlrhKshFT1rtrCGMVOrlb5.OfWrCc2AwjbE8rVao2ZJ.W0jmo03gVz1GPNkim5KLEGMWtIDU8L22vT0r5vjhRv0K0uongexGpl0YdUhROPKc0yOEf2VkBSyhs8WIkLkBZmrLu.nTgE0ZhoXwxEqCfdkilgIXRscEwiXN9rRoYoHau_bTOhNUhsqScv7VXdGKr0y.5EOWaADDqs6NYXpc59sMq0uIkXTx6ilXvjGXYTxr7GZlDzoQ.uVhUmBktHBwHpLFGCUTHf5hEIG.0aTHvM7mbvVWHbKjxTDIq95a Received: from [24.207.224.145] by web81305.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 03 Aug 2009 12:36:19 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/1357.22 YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.10 References: <96f789a60908030958s5cb26484ob1961a9b20befc84@mail.gmail.com> <501092.57610.qm@web81308.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <20090803191351.GA28763@sdf.lonestar.org> Date: Mon, 3 Aug 2009 12:36:19 -0700 (PDT) From: John E Clifford Subject: [lojban] Re: Experiments in Sapir Whorf To: lojban-list@lojban.org In-Reply-To: <20090803191351.GA28763@sdf.lonestar.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-archive-position: 15879 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: kali9putra@yahoo.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-list@lojban.org X-list: lojban-list I suppose my question remains. These sorts of coincidences or parallels are always with us and have a variety of explanations, most having little to do with language and thought on any deep level. SWH is about deep level grammatical categories and ontology, not about vocabulary tricks. (It is still a crock, of course, but at least it is an interesting crock). ----- Original Message ---- From: Minimiscience To: lojban-list@lojban.org Sent: Monday, August 3, 2009 2:13:52 PM Subject: [lojban] Re: Experiments in Sapir Whorf de'i li 03 pi'e 08 pi'e 2009 la'o fy. John E Clifford .fy. cusku zoi skamyxatra. > OK, this did affect my way of thinking, but what has it to do with > Sapir-Whorf? .skamyxatra For some reason, Michael's e-mails occasionally get mangled by some piece of e-mail software between him and us. If you look at the raw source of the message, you'll see that it should have been "New experiments in Sapir Whorf, mentioined in Newsweek -- http://wwwords.org/?SWHE --gejyspa". I have no idea why this happens, but so far it has happened to him at least eight times and to ScottL, Jon Top Hat Jones, and lojbab once each. mu'omi'e .kamymecraijun. -- mi citka loi cidjrspageti fi'o sanmi lo cersai To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to lojban-list-request@lojban.org with the subject unsubscribe, or go to http://www.lojban.org/lsg2/, or if you're really stuck, send mail to secretary@lojban.org for help. To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to lojban-list-request@lojban.org with the subject unsubscribe, or go to http://www.lojban.org/lsg2/, or if you're really stuck, send mail to secretary@lojban.org for help.