From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Mon Aug 10 23:30:45 2009 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Mon, 10 Aug 2009 23:30:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Maksf-00078B-6H for lojban-list-real@lojban.org; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 23:30:45 -0700 Received: from mail-bw0-f227.google.com ([209.85.218.227]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1MaksX-00075f-Vo for lojban-list@lojban.org; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 23:30:43 -0700 Received: by bwz27 with SMTP id 27so2888066bwz.34 for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 23:30:31 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=yMshTHJDAhFTSMcYvEzMCvLhON1Az2TDhpwsur47yYM=; b=AmADKHrMllvfRmLeRsfKPoE6YTp+9cE6NxmoFZWh9y/hpJsUhKMT11Zri504bsBuqT wGxKSXTo2e54UkzZf9wwEsjfkei2DPWmmbyp5e8VVW2k3YrDBSc6BcoW+uoRilwGfwIF a5X8u2o45xN/CFe8d0v98CgN4ihayO6q5xARA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=v+rWjunWKk7kKf5qfQK/oGZRtC7Fnu9dN7VlSSQzCKKXZrjwWWGs+HP5XWqkMfisxJ C+CvOQ8C3gR6qnwbxcGJr3Xt1E10fIbFKbkpA41T3OmTIk/MKs/CW8SJN1NiYRIaTxJA 7GWUxb0fBB1tST7p8iEOxqO5nrUTeFIlBRwJs= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.103.131 with SMTP id k3mr2278786bko.154.1249972231576; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 23:30:31 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <5715b9300908101945jfa1c06v84f68bfccb7c8b1c@mail.gmail.com> References: <5715b9300908101945jfa1c06v84f68bfccb7c8b1c@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 11 Aug 2009 09:30:31 +0300 Message-ID: <5a3750120908102330k6d0ffe4i7c2059fbf20b610@mail.gmail.com> Subject: [lojban] Re: potentially stupid question From: Oleksii Melnyk To: lojban-list@lojban.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-archive-position: 15954 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: lamelnyk@gmail.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-list@lojban.org X-list: lojban-list ju'o go'i .i le verba cu di'i facki le cfipu morna le rarbau .i su'o pagbu be la lojban cu cfipu le ciroi tadni la cll .i seni'ibo go'i le verba 2009/8/11, Luke Bergen : > I was picturing the following scenario playing out between a lojbanic parent > and his/her child: > > rirni: lo re titla cu banzu > verba: .i go'i fi lonu do tolxendo > rirni .i do binxo lo xlali verba > verba: .i go'i fi lonu do tolxendo > rirni .i o'onai .i lo nu do tavla cu ckape do > verba: .i go'i fi lonu do tolxendo > rirni .i o'onaicai .i .au mi darxi do > > now I would think that a child learning a language as they grow would tend > to see the generalities of a language and apply those generalities to > unknown words and concepts. So wouldn't the child expect that the following > response (un-doubtedly screamed while running for cover): > > verba: .i go'i fi lonu do tolxendo > > would continue to be clever and grammatically correct since "fi" > *seems*like it usually means "under conditions"? > > Could the constantly shifting places for concepts like "under conditions" > cause natural learners of lojban to get confused? > > mu'o mi'e pafcribe > -- mu'o mi'e lex To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to lojban-list-request@lojban.org with the subject unsubscribe, or go to http://www.lojban.org/lsg2/, or if you're really stuck, send mail to secretary@lojban.org for help.