From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Tue Aug 18 07:09:21 2009 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Tue, 18 Aug 2009 07:09:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1MdPNI-0006CL-OD for lojban-list-real@lojban.org; Tue, 18 Aug 2009 07:09:20 -0700 Received: from mail-vw0-f179.google.com ([209.85.212.179]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1MdPNB-00061z-AS for lojban-list@lojban.org; Tue, 18 Aug 2009 07:09:20 -0700 Received: by vws9 with SMTP id 9so3011557vws.25 for ; Tue, 18 Aug 2009 07:09:07 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=IAy4pEfEQqsIS8X7H45ASMJBjdtQj7zEnzSOVPIMmRA=; b=CWGj+kPmxBfttV/VejlPOc2+g5L7uBDymQ0xq7YcZtCGRZJPlE2Lcd9DUWIIqUKZbJ yyLARG1n814d4PIUyFQhpbTEHr1g8l13+tilG6HcOWZkiFfjwUyIrIWBZDzSdMpL/7u+ oUVDi6tRDjkvx5Xt4id1h5GhqLof6Fq7aTZ7k= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=bxYdEjGr2d2j4olT2/Ch3VHeZV1nXJwQYnDxWwkbWhdvaK+Wy6Danr8q5V+w/V0KYy nRp6cZeuNSqvs5zquQi9wTphYKMdZ/iDrJSwAfDbZkGtQkxaFJ9v6zYnzX5cm4iORk04 IQQw46huu8IiVFWPF1EVZ5UMwKsxT1Fbk/e6w= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.220.110.84 with SMTP id m20mr6994139vcp.37.1250604546987; Tue, 18 Aug 2009 07:09:06 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <96f789a60908180653v8c692f7pc4a40a174f00eb96@mail.gmail.com> References: <86ocqdz183.fsf@cmarib.ramside> <5715b9300908180648v54c8ac4awb77c12c5a8ecacc7@mail.gmail.com> <96f789a60908180653v8c692f7pc4a40a174f00eb96@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 18 Aug 2009 10:09:06 -0400 Message-ID: <5715b9300908180709r6d932e38w2f22a9b55e004846@mail.gmail.com> Subject: [lojban] Re: Lojban Jokes WAS Re: webserver hosed? From: Luke Bergen To: lojban-list@lojban.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001636832ad6c71a9404716b0f66 X-archive-position: 15972 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: lukeabergen@gmail.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-list@lojban.org X-list: lojban-list --001636832ad6c71a9404716b0f66 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit right right, my bad. I meant to say {tanru} not {lujvo}. I'm always mixing them up when reading the refgram and such. - Luke Bergen On Tue, Aug 18, 2009 at 9:53 AM, Michael Turniansky wrote: > On Tue, Aug 18, 2009 at 9:48 AM, Luke Bergen wrote: > > actually I think you got it backwards. lujvo grouping is left-oriented, > so > > it's a "(broken type of light) type of bulb". > > > > Correct me if I'm wrong doi anybody who has more experience. > > > > > > On Tue, Aug 18, 2009 at 9:43 AM, wrote: > >> > >> MorphemeAddict@wmconnect.com writes: > >> > >> > In a message dated 8/18/2009 01:16:55 Eastern Daylight Time, > >> > vonunov@gmail.com writes: > >> > > >> > > >> > > On Mon, 17 Aug 2009 23:46:57 -0500, Arran wrote: > >> > > > >> > > > How many lojbanists does it take to change a broken light bulb? > >> > > > >> > > What kind of lightbulb? How was it broken? How do you mean, > "change"? > >> > > There are many ways to change something. > >> > > > >> > > >> > And what kind of bulb emits broken light? > >> > > >> > >> I never really got that joke. .uu The lujvo grouping clearly indicates > >> that the questioner is referring to a (broken type-of (light type-of > >> bulb)). If anyone thinks the question refers to "broken light", > >> they'd have to be misinterpreting the tanru, right? > >> > >> Note that the joke works in English: "broken light bulb". I just > >> don't think it survives the translation. > >> > > "Lujvo grouping" isn't well defined, since they can elide groupers, > etc. Tanru grouping, on the other hand is always left to right unless > changed by bo, ke/ke'e, or JA a spofu gusni balji is a (broken-light) > bulb. > > --gejyspa > > > To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to lojban-list-request@lojban.org > with the subject unsubscribe, or go to http://www.lojban.org/lsg2/, or if > you're really stuck, send mail to secretary@lojban.org for help. > > --001636832ad6c71a9404716b0f66 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable right right, my bad.=A0 I meant to say {tanru} not {lujvo}.=A0 I'm alwa= ys mixing them up when reading the refgram and such.

= - Luke Bergen


On Tue, Aug 18, 2009 at 9:53 AM, Michael= Turniansky <= mturniansky@gmail.com> wrote:
On Tue, Aug 18, 2009 at 9:48 AM, Luke Bergen<lukeabergen@gmail.com> wrote:
> actually I think you got it backwards.=A0 lujvo grouping is left-orien= ted, so
> it's a "(broken type of light) type of bulb".
>
> Correct me if I'm wrong doi anybody who has more experience.
>
>
> On Tue, Aug 18, 2009 at 9:43 AM, <sunrise2000@comcast.net> wrote:
>>
>> MorphemeAddict@wmc= onnect.com writes:
>>
>> > In a message dated 8/18/2009 01:16:55 Eastern Daylight Time,<= br> >> > vonunov@gmail.com wr= ites:
>> >
>> >
>> > > On Mon, 17 Aug 2009 23:46:57 -0500, Arran <arran4@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > >
>> > > > How many lojbanists does it take to change a broken= light bulb?
>> > >
>> > > What kind of lightbulb? How was it broken? How do you me= an, "change"?
>> > > There are many ways to change something.
>> > >
>> >
>> > And what kind of bulb emits broken light?
>> >
>>
>> I never really got that joke. .uu The lujvo grouping clearly indic= ates
>> that the questioner is referring to a (broken type-of (light type-= of
>> bulb)). =A0If anyone thinks the question refers to "broken li= ght",
>> they'd have to be misinterpreting the tanru, right?
>>
>> Note that the joke works in English: "broken light bulb"= . =A0I just
>> don't think it survives the translation.
>>

=A0"Lujvo grouping" isn't well defined, since they can= elide groupers,
etc. =A0Tanru grouping, on the other hand is always left to right unless changed by bo, ke/ke'e, or JA =A0a spofu gusni balji is a (broken-light= )
bulb.

=A0 =A0 =A0 --gejyspa


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