From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Thu Aug 27 12:53:23 2009 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Thu, 27 Aug 2009 12:53:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Mgl2A-0000WY-KF for lojban-list-real@lojban.org; Thu, 27 Aug 2009 12:53:23 -0700 Received: from imr-da02.mx.aol.com ([205.188.105.144]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Mgl27-0000WA-1m for lojban-list@lojban.org; Thu, 27 Aug 2009 12:53:22 -0700 Received: from imo-ma04.mx.aol.com (imo-ma04.mx.aol.com [64.12.78.139]) by imr-da02.mx.aol.com (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id n7RJrAEY008780 for ; Thu, 27 Aug 2009 15:53:10 -0400 Received: from MorphemeAddict@wmconnect.com by imo-ma04.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v42.5.) id d.bf9.66bf06f2 (39955) for ; Thu, 27 Aug 2009 15:53:08 -0400 (EDT) From: MorphemeAddict@wmconnect.com Message-ID: Date: Thu, 27 Aug 2009 15:53:08 EDT Subject: [lojban] Re: Compound vs Coordinate Bilinguals To: lojban-list@lojban.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_bf9.66bf06f2.37c83e24_boundary" X-Mailer: 6.0 for Windows XP sub 11501 X-Spam-Flag:NO X-AOL-SENDER: MorphemeAddict@wmconnect.com X-archive-position: 16065 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: MorphemeAddict@wmconnect.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-list@lojban.org X-list: lojban-list --part1_bf9.66bf06f2.37c83e24_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 8/27/2009 14:50:04 Eastern Daylight Time, adam.raizen@gmail.com writes: > How does limiting the semantic primitives used in definitions even have a > connection to the problem of definitions not being able to capture all the > details of usage of real words in real languages. Have I completely > misunderstood what NSM is? > One of the aims of NSM (and a minor one, I think) is to find the semantic primitives of language(s). The main aim is to use those primitives in defining non-primitive terms. This is done with "explications", or scenario-like quasi-definitions that give much more information about the real meaning of a word than standard definitions do. These explications also allow comparison of different words, in particular, synonyms, to see precisely in what way the words' meanings are different. stevo --part1_bf9.66bf06f2.37c83e24_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable In a messag= e dated 8/27/2009 14:50:04 Eastern Daylight Time, adam.raizen@gmail.com wr= ites:


How does limiting the= semantic primitives used in definitions even have a connection to the pro= blem of definitions not being able to capture all the details of usag= e of real words in real languages. Have I completely misunderstood what NS= M is?


One of the aims of NSM (and a minor one, I think) is to find the seman= tic primitives of language(s).
The main aim is to use those primitives in defining non-primitive term= s.  This is done with "explications", or scenario-like quasi-definiti= ons that give much more information about the real meaning of a word than= standard definitions do.  These explications also allow comparison= of different words, in particular, synonyms, to see precisely in what way= the words' meanings are different.  

stevo
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