From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Wed Sep 09 16:20:54 2009 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Wed, 09 Sep 2009 16:20:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1MlWT7-0006dd-O7 for lojban-list-real@lojban.org; Wed, 09 Sep 2009 16:20:54 -0700 Received: from web81308.mail.mud.yahoo.com ([68.142.199.124]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with smtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1MlWT2-0006dF-R3 for lojban-list@lojban.org; Wed, 09 Sep 2009 16:20:53 -0700 Received: (qmail 14887 invoked by uid 60001); 9 Sep 2009 23:20:42 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1252538442; bh=x2FVAY39vP09cGg2hN0Q8UXBkanvS/o2S+ZOHjs4lQU=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=upleK7mZ7fAd09n+AXeryGiCRvxdanNcKtB3azZdQAKzWvoiTKRqYaPUSDaWRtojTC5HrDPuC453dZejlZ2vRS9Ujo6tKz3BfpeCFkXKEUrRW+rhIN24flGJqKHDwMiUN2NHxMhB0pI7ZeNkDp4UgDzo5hBumd/yCIesfNVZ5Yc= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=SbnWrNIMGTrJ0gJUYnZlQkr+/gkxxDNvl+qJDHwFvM+21t7QcTEsLCLtmZNTYdOX7lCWUf54cl8+hdVSdAyvIT5XIEWENmX2cndOogeINJAhE58d1Ge+MR8dvgZlkCsXcan6bMZfjOAUQxkRS/X9XanEX+YaJ+caoxZe9ejf0AY=; Message-ID: <203604.11793.qm@web81308.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: FLVQaMgVM1lsRB4gZzeEUv_.dgqjUBiIrrQX8wGtqslzaj5mPVTIGfCfw_eXa0FKmmkXGxKhuBmzRG6tqtpSys4CPdPuTAqJUy01AHTQnCVmFd6RMOD4oRKHSjy67fMmVdveiuA3UTB8cq8KMq34yqnczl5m0aGaaAJyLXEVXkpBFbF0t0.uCYYY3fJ5k9gg976Bi_Lx4NaB5uBAgfc4SCMkQnXFbgH1tI26wh3lmwZzLrWqgsZNihHPE9C7VM255HEVHDfuQ8Z_09pCmy5uTciljlCqGm0gEuxL.As3ZpltK5I9gSfGD9rwjUkovVxR_Delz_Am7PL81cMnZNQj1Nlizxftmhc6PKxZuzCu889898DnJTQhJla17EnNoK4D1NX_Ijxe Received: from [24.207.224.145] by web81308.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 09 Sep 2009 16:20:42 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/1358.27 YahooMailWebService/0.7.338.2 References: <9ada8ecd0909051425t78a046f3kddef2869e5c8e7a2@mail.gmail.com> <9ada8ecd0909080221h297baa5eqb5eba2ad6ac1d5d5@mail.gmail.com> <200909080827.14128.phma@phma.optus.nu> <9ada8ecd0909081238j2649ee89g28c6b34c72d82b18@mail.gmail.com> <925d17560909081321x34f3faa1u40106c6ed49b5972@mail.gmail.com> <9ada8ecd0909081431m6758386dgf241e2b27e99b5d7@mail.gmail.com> <925d17560909081613o6eec4c9i71c10f8f418e5c17@mail.gmail.com> <9ada8ecd0909091032h9c4c838x4addad9337e10f18@mail.gmail.com> <507917.88436.qm@web81305.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <925d17560909091608x17bc71f7h7ec16449cc8e10b4@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 9 Sep 2009 16:20:42 -0700 (PDT) From: John E Clifford Subject: [lojban] Re: xorlo To: lojban-list@lojban.org In-Reply-To: <925d17560909091608x17bc71f7h7ec16449cc8e10b4@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by Ecartis X-archive-position: 16140 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: kali9putra@yahoo.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-list@lojban.org X-list: lojban-list Well, to ease both our discomforts, I note that we do disagree about whether lo requires a collective reading and about what , if anything, loi etc. mean. ----- Original Message ---- From: Jorge Llambías To: lojban-list@lojban.org Sent: Wednesday, September 9, 2009 6:08:29 PM Subject: [lojban] Re: xorlo On Wed, Sep 9, 2009 at 5:14 PM, John E Clifford wrote: > > Well, I think xorxes and I will disagree here: I think that an external > quantifier forces a distributive reading and it is at least possilbe that > xorxes does not I do agree that outer quantifiers are always distributive. Strangely enough, we seem to be on the same page on practically everything (as long as generics and intensional contexts don't crop up). This is a very odd situation. :) mu'o mi'e xorxes To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to lojban-list-request@lojban.org with the subject unsubscribe, or go to http://www.lojban.org/lsg2/, or if you're really stuck, send mail to secretary@lojban.org for help. To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to lojban-list-request@lojban.org with the subject unsubscribe, or go to http://www.lojban.org/lsg2/, or if you're really stuck, send mail to secretary@lojban.org for help.