From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Wed Sep 30 23:54:49 2009 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Wed, 30 Sep 2009 23:54:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1MtFYv-0008Fa-9s for lojban-list-real@lojban.org; Wed, 30 Sep 2009 23:54:49 -0700 Received: from mail-bw0-f211.google.com ([209.85.218.211]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1MtFYr-0008EE-Iy for lojban-list@lojban.org; Wed, 30 Sep 2009 23:54:49 -0700 Received: by bwz7 with SMTP id 7so1080797bwz.34 for ; Wed, 30 Sep 2009 23:54:39 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=mSGnhq9WTKy72NI181nTIQfZGjc7TP1gpcj+7pfJBn4=; b=Dfiypx5kOokUpczGi6p1jbHWUX13eR3jzwqBqRROOUBUsjtg3PQCDp6B7HhRmw/8oJ sG3nVbh3jhHpniq74VDj44pUSTdHbKDHf9gC/2I5mohWLGkYK6KDixy+sA2CuZgJN0dT 6eYJPlw8zPFzhIPWG02YE7mkJLCc4ADrL4Siw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=U95sibSAilmfiyfp/gV3kKdnui1P/rq01QTtwJxuNbji+obePk9elB6ZDKwyMpV2Wz L0HG/Bog+Mx4jsqAQIo8i4IXsvIZQQw3yglSayjevqqbXFcFjOXv99TMKkUi33MFbdTe capi9dEjAYkKwg7HaggvKQHhguPSj6FzVTFWs= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.8.13 with SMTP id f13mr633010bkf.150.1254380079084; Wed, 30 Sep 2009 23:54:39 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20090930204405.GA8331@sdf.lonestar.org> References: <5a3750120909301321m5b743be8v5aea53f46710159e@mail.gmail.com> <20090930204405.GA8331@sdf.lonestar.org> Date: Thu, 1 Oct 2009 09:54:38 +0300 Message-ID: <5a3750120909302354u58fb9624s1d04a5a995bcee1c@mail.gmail.com> Subject: [lojban] Re: eliding everything From: Oleksii Melnyk To: lojban-list@lojban.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-archive-position: 16289 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: lamelnyk@gmail.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-list@lojban.org X-list: lojban-list 2009/9/30, Minimiscience : > Remove the "{lo du'u}"; "{di'e}" belongs to KOhA and is thus a pro-{sumti}, > not a pro-{bridi}. I see, thanks. But i think about ideas, not about phrases (which is di'e "type", AFAIR). So, either my brain is broken by strongly typed programming languages, or i need to convert "next phrase" into "idea" type somehow. Would "du'u go'o" (or si'o go'o) do the trick? Or i just need to stop worrying? > this seems like nothing more than a variant of "{lo co'e}" that saves only > one or two syllables; That's it. "LE KU" is 1.5 to 2 times shorter, then "LE co'e [KU]" and saves su'o cmavo from remembering. The same can be applied to some other "elliptical/unspecified" uses (:would some words be shorter:) to save several more sumti. So, that is just a small bit of consistency (what is more elliptical, then an empty "()"?) and several cmavo. Nothing to care about, unless you are fanatic perfectionist :) -- mu'o mi'e lex To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to lojban-list-request@lojban.org with the subject unsubscribe, or go to http://www.lojban.org/lsg2/, or if you're really stuck, send mail to secretary@lojban.org for help.