From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Thu Oct 22 14:16:12 2009 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Thu, 22 Oct 2009 14:16:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1N1512-0001T2-1R for lojban-list-real@lojban.org; Thu, 22 Oct 2009 14:16:12 -0700 Received: from mail-gx0-f224.google.com ([209.85.217.224]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1N150x-0001S7-9O for lojban-list@lojban.org; Thu, 22 Oct 2009 14:16:11 -0700 Received: by gxk24 with SMTP id 24so20453083gxk.6 for ; Thu, 22 Oct 2009 14:16:00 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=rQ4PLps3ZgDv4G3z72mTb06oi6X/koiXgdyMe64H5So=; b=rg+YodFUAfWrM/OGMMl2avVL8k1BZTXmIFM6nE/Hljb1wgMGFNHKBVJ9yxNF+aGK3I 2pjBH39oF0irF0DG6zGXGVJrSchUT3o73ciSpZ/BPxZ7KHiCcWS7nezSEQ96E6QneN+d 38kFrBXXF4FNxdrxjEwmSn3HB7GMTZdwXuRGg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=EqfFT/lfiiuj3HGcPEHOPk0ZPvOFIxePlXGMgS1SLEEF2CjM36BbEbwS4kthsj2o03 +YPfTGTvO3wbjxOJ4ez/1XashOVrnyGBH2Ht5c+/pYNmUOkiOE7hkL0kkbFLVoY1cOsW 8KijE00axrBJp8VlUTEw22Nb3h6mLjIR+JqLE= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.150.176.13 with SMTP id y13mr16493560ybe.299.1256246160525; Thu, 22 Oct 2009 14:16:00 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20091022210927.GA15870@sdf.lonestar.org> References: <5715b9300910221359y76c159d9t4a41eb06d93f594c@mail.gmail.com> <20091022210927.GA15870@sdf.lonestar.org> Date: Thu, 22 Oct 2009 17:16:00 -0400 Message-ID: <5715b9300910221416r4b113b2fk2903030efa1681b5@mail.gmail.com> Subject: [lojban] Re: danfu dandu danlu From: Luke Bergen To: lojban-list@lojban.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000e0cd75fd826201c04768c9a0d X-archive-position: 16383 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: lukeabergen@gmail.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-list@lojban.org X-list: lojban-list --000e0cd75fd826201c04768c9a0d Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I see. I haven't read chapter 4 in quite some time. Maybe I should go back over it again. I guess it can't be helped that some words will sound similar (I'm not even going to bring up similarity of cmavo). Another interesting one I've been tripped up on: cikre, ckire. They don't so much sound the same as much as they look the same. On Thu, Oct 22, 2009 at 5:09 PM, Minimiscience wrote: > de'i li 22 pi'e 10 pi'e 2009 la'o fy. Luke Bergen .fy. cusku zoi > skamyxatra. > > While studying vocab I noticed the existence of {danfu}, {dandu}, and > > {danlu}. When the LLG was putting lojban together was there no intention > of > > making the different words sound distinctive? > .skamyxatra > > There was an intention, and Lojban was in fact designed so that the {gismu} > sound distinctive, just not (apparently) by your personal standards of > "distinctive." (Also, you missed "{dansu}.") See item 4 of the {gismu} > creation algorithm in section 4.14 of the CLL for more information. > > mu'omi'e .kamymecraijun. > > -- > jicmu traji zifre fa loi remna lonu senpi > > > To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to lojban-list-request@lojban.org > with the subject unsubscribe, or go to http://www.lojban.org/lsg2/, or if > you're really stuck, send mail to secretary@lojban.org for help. > > --000e0cd75fd826201c04768c9a0d Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I see.=A0 I haven't read chapter 4 in quite some time.=A0 Maybe I shoul= d go back over it again.=A0 I guess it can't be helped that some words = will sound similar (I'm not even going to bring up similarity of cmavo)= .

Another interesting one I've been tripped up on: cikre, ckire.=A0 T= hey don't so much sound the same as much as they look the same.

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On Thu, Oct 22, 2009 at 5:09 PM, Minimiscience <= span dir=3D"ltr"><minimiscien= ce@gmail.com> wrote:
de'i li 22 pi= 'e 10 pi'e 2009 la'o fy. Luke Bergen .fy. cusku zoi skamyxatra.=
> While studying vocab I noticed the existence of {dan= fu}, {dandu}, and
> {danlu}. =A0When the LLG was putting lojban together was there no inte= ntion of
> making the different words sound distinctive?
.skamyxatra

There was an intention, and Lojban was in fact designed so that the {gismu}=
sound distinctive, just not (apparently) by your personal standards of
"distinctive." =A0(Also, you missed "{dansu}.") =A0 See= item 4 of the {gismu}
creation algorithm in section 4.14 of the CLL for more information.

mu'omi'e .kamymecraijun.

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