From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Thu Oct 22 22:23:11 2009 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Thu, 22 Oct 2009 22:23:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1N1CcJ-0001Q6-6a for lojban-list-real@lojban.org; Thu, 22 Oct 2009 22:23:11 -0700 Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com ([75.180.132.122]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1N1CcG-0001Mn-DR for lojban-list@lojban.org; Thu, 22 Oct 2009 22:23:11 -0700 Received: from chausie ([71.75.215.96]) by cdptpa-omta04.mail.rr.com with ESMTP id <20091023052253246.TYUP17264@cdptpa-omta04.mail.rr.com> for ; Fri, 23 Oct 2009 05:22:53 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by chausie (Postfix) with ESMTP id E21557A8 for ; Fri, 23 Oct 2009 01:22:52 -0400 (EDT) From: Pierre Abbat To: lojban-list@lojban.org Subject: [lojban] Re: vagueness vs ambiguity Date: Fri, 23 Oct 2009 01:22:50 -0400 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.6 (enterprise 0.20070907.709405) References: <5715b9300910221536o6c0b268fr5317e25634f1edc9@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <5715b9300910221536o6c0b268fr5317e25634f1edc9@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-15" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200910230122.51271.phma@phma.optus.nu> X-archive-position: 16391 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: phma@phma.optus.nu Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-list@lojban.org X-list: lojban-list On Thursday 22 October 2009 18:36:56 Luke Bergen wrote: > So I've heard people say in the past "lojban is vague, but it is not > ambiguous". But what is the difference exactly? > > "John and Jim played a game. He lost". I've heard this example used to > explain how english is "ambiguous". But how is this different from {la > djan joi la djim kelci lo lo nunkei .i ra toljinga} which I guess is > "ambiguous"? "kelci" isn't playing a game, it's playing with a toy. How about "la djan. la djim. jivna la baduk .i ra toljinga"? mu'omi'e .pier. -- lo ponse be lo mruli po'o cu ga'ezga roda lo ka dinko To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to lojban-list-request@lojban.org with the subject unsubscribe, or go to http://www.lojban.org/lsg2/, or if you're really stuck, send mail to secretary@lojban.org for help.