From mturniansky@gmail.com Wed Dec 02 09:33:31 2009 Received: from mail-pz0-f188.google.com ([209.85.222.188]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1NFt4x-0006Ml-JM for lojban-list@lojban.org; Wed, 02 Dec 2009 09:33:31 -0800 Received: by pzk26 with SMTP id 26so339864pzk.4 for ; Wed, 02 Dec 2009 09:33:21 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=juwwo4mdmLM4TPLtkpByEwmRVp1rOiOF5LwCuY2Du0U=; b=DwudiYsAIJCMfd8O3pzC+VpQRVg8HwzjAl+0lZTnfyS0c0qqvQJsMg6KD0nc8pXnPs nmXB6O31m9Uh0Jlp0p8+v23Sd90UgQvPQs0fk7K+TFW+m0lVXwTEEgk3WMSC3DgP9zLE eK1JnYxbP4sLshF3C+9aLAgftFJ65y9bZSzFQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=ONmJbqK3jRHvvjXDc9lphuTtZDzL6APYEpCynwLhIMrI1IXRS3LnGw+IBSdhMP7OMs /TOlKtepKSROWqsWBWhYKun7usSnvFOgyfPkN64mO23lSPunq8BbrS4ubqKxRL0VycWH L3SW898V2Qc41pWFmqcPaI0OhpRKxJCwSdLeo= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.142.248.4 with SMTP id v4mr39890wfh.180.1259775201319; Wed, 02 Dec 2009 09:33:21 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <200912021150.16883.phma@phma.optus.nu> References: <200911290959.34266.phma@phma.optus.nu> <96f789a60912010708o5627f4ddj8f6826b0109a6254@mail.gmail.com> <200912021150.16883.phma@phma.optus.nu> Date: Wed, 2 Dec 2009 12:33:21 -0500 Message-ID: <96f789a60912020933u74558c5dhcbf09763ab3f09cf@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: [lojban] Re: 5/6% From: Michael Turniansky To: lojban-list@lojban.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, Dec 2, 2009 at 11:50 AM, Pierre Abbat wrote: > On Tuesday 01 December 2009 10:08:40 Michael Turniansky wrote: >> =C2=A0 I'd say that was correct. =C2=A0In the absence of=C2=A0=C2=A0vei/= ve'o, it should be >> left to right grouping > > None of "mu fi'u xa ce'i" is an operator, so that's irrelevant. As far as= the > grammar is concerned, "mufi'uxace'i" is the same as "parecivo" > or "paici'ino'otu'o". > > Pierre > -- > li fi'u vu'u fi'u fi'u du li pa Fair point. As CLL says, ref'iuze "is the name of the number two-sevenths; it is not the same as ``the result of 2 divided by 7'' in Lojban, although numerically these two are equal." (it also laters says that 1/2 is not the same as 3/6. So as soon as you tell me what paici'ino'otu'o means unambiguously, I"ll tell you what mufi'uxace'i means... It seems to me that if you wanted it to evaluate to 5/(6%), you should use mu fi'u {no} pi no xa --gejyspa