From lytlesw@gmail.com Wed Dec 02 16:54:58 2009 Received: from mail-bw0-f215.google.com ([209.85.218.215]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1NFzyB-00033S-Qy for lojban-list@lojban.org; Wed, 02 Dec 2009 16:54:58 -0800 Received: by bwz7 with SMTP id 7so771494bwz.26 for ; Wed, 02 Dec 2009 16:54:49 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=zOA4eqRGEpR6SgcuPR+ghIg9lmvmo0yjetOhdS2Yk2g=; b=P5RwiABtrCzT5hH8EJ0QWF4h+Lf4yl6cnypQR8n8uf6W+jqIAud0iDrp9waaX9VogP dW+UQZZQBjAtPqOPGMndJirZk7sSGHC4cX3jzOuzVzuW8RGptP+Fylgc4LPnp3ZShOKl OM9/GowWq1aseOy9SnEzhmOhOsDznnI188uEM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=SSMCtY6VCfK7hIjZKfLuQjoExEorCdEZj/bPT6IOoxFu8xOtZmlltobTY/hckgHlum DJXrTwAs7bfmDMAgLiS2D3LW9TIcg9YB4ZSIqiFZVsXE6519YFJnZ1DBa/nUQeENZjM6 vuPUEhA5feksgZ/s4i83q6eJETKmZe0bCFKVs= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.148.85 with SMTP id o21mr872701bkv.134.1259801688876; Wed, 02 Dec 2009 16:54:48 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <8CC41AE84B49916-5C80-CA59@webmail-d022.sysops.aol.com> References: <8CC41AE84B49916-5C80-CA59@webmail-d022.sysops.aol.com> Date: Wed, 2 Dec 2009 19:54:48 -0500 Message-ID: <249d5b950912021654o57d32606tb05fffab4381753e@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: [lojban] LFB print From: Steven Lytle To: lojban-list@lojban.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0015175cd9622728770479c87084 --0015175cd9622728770479c87084 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I disagree that lujvo "can be recreated from the basic wordlists". While you can certainly determine the underlying tanru (or just gismu and cmavo), you cannot determine which meaning of the underlying phrase is selected as the meaning of the lujvo, nor can you with any certainly determine the argument structure of the lujvo. I entreat you to include at least some lujvo if the book is to be made available to other people. stevo On Wed, Dec 2, 2009 at 4:35 PM, Seth wrote: > Just thought i would show off my brand new hot off the press copy of > Lojban for Beginners, which i printed here on BYU campus for around 20 > bucks. It just might be the first bound copy of the book. Tell me what you > think. I also designed the cover using epcott's brilliant flag. The dvd in > one of the pics is to show the relative size of the book. It is about an > inch thick. > > within the next month, i plan on finishing the first bound lojban-english > dictionary. The standard wordlists are the focus for this pocket dictionary, > so I will not be including any lujvo, as they are not a finite set, and can > be recreated from the basic wordlists. Any recommendations for the design of > this? Any recommendations on the title? > > seryf > --0015175cd9622728770479c87084 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I disagree that lujvo "can be recreated from the basic wordlists&= quot;. While you can certainly determine the underlying tanru (or just gism= u and cmavo), you cannot determine which meaning of the underlying phrase i= s selected as the meaning of the lujvo, nor can you with any certainly dete= rmine the argument structure of the lujvo. I entreat you to include at leas= t some lujvo if the book is to be made available to other people.
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On Wed, Dec 2, 2009 at 4:35 PM, Seth <thirderivative@aol.c= om> wrote: