From jjllambias@gmail.com Thu Dec 03 07:28:28 2009 Received: from mail-yx0-f202.google.com ([209.85.210.202]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1NGDbT-0000BX-Sf for lojban-list@lojban.org; Thu, 03 Dec 2009 07:28:28 -0800 Received: by yxe40 with SMTP id 40so1294203yxe.28 for ; Thu, 03 Dec 2009 07:28:17 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=WGaWsyTPtiJAvBBPKMo73higTZWllfBQBqthKsGANYE=; b=SVN7EYIBaPUyq4sYIaP8CirklrgN58NGpixHM+iv0S1LYi43oCOJJ8ryuKSr/TfjVj EiJ96pEl8DRkCFRvbtkXRHVQUNFdhXFfNOMDIHjvAGkTO2hQwiqqSNdY+yC98Qhyvhp3 PHbp9BTarFEBf870N3nMZ5tYrqFEReHJvHBgY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=V8lhVn68pSGHBd5hJwjLdImxhfLNmcK6kINMNgT70/4Wk6KZNdzTWT71d27wOmTj5+ LZ6M8PVLhgzeUS66A39mcQye7MDuS4NFtaCQj1vvYZNAWQmhg5WBjkk7mrMA9wNG99mQ OsPcN7Ct+Hynircgv65LNhI2B9Q+MmQ4Wh6rU= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.91.105.17 with SMTP id h17mr2713794agm.62.1259854097147; Thu, 03 Dec 2009 07:28:17 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Thu, 3 Dec 2009 12:28:17 -0300 Message-ID: <925d17560912030728s34f5a4f7he1ecb295fb7bfacf@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: [lojban] what's a du'u? From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jorge_Llamb=EDas?= To: lojban-list@lojban.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 On Wed, Dec 2, 2009 at 11:21 PM, Thomas Jack wrote: > Suppose {la .tom. du la .tomas.} is true. > > What if any is the difference in meaning, then, between {mi djuno lo > du'u la .tom. du la .tomas.} and {mi djuno lo du'u la .tom. du la > .tom.}? You don't really need to bring in "djuno". "la .tom. du la .tomas." and "la .tom. du la .tom." already have different meanings, even in cases where they are both true. An "la .tom. du ri" has a third meaning, because repetition of a name is not always anaphoric. Whereas "la .tom. du ri" will always be true, "la .tom. du la .tom." might be false if there are two different Toms involved. mu'o mi'e xorxes