From lukeabergen@gmail.com Thu Dec 03 13:33:31 2009 Received: from mail-yw0-f187.google.com ([209.85.211.187]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1NGJIi-0003lu-Pi for lojban-list@lojban.org; Thu, 03 Dec 2009 13:33:31 -0800 Received: by ywh17 with SMTP id 17so1884520ywh.2 for ; Thu, 03 Dec 2009 13:33:18 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=NREaGkiamhp4vPkQz/5yVU8hNX4odx/Oo6+7AzdgxPY=; b=L0ce6SY/6dsbycTs5V1IWJB89dTG2qIxAoswjgMTZrPau9pjRU7tOzYG3Z1hCH/Pux 8nvUAqg1mNjFSHkoFpjMkph7TKLBZMiYkc/F+CmIfIJZLs3rMa86m9oEdoG2SeXu/7RJ 0Pfi4DJ2bwcKU7P+n1ShZJITwhqnKFIHv/IDQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=pGm8LNpwycv5fb8bL+pYazw5oWrAMerIyd1iWAsG6UL2EImzR7QSx7wpNFJ2WDf8Mh P418s1OjFkvgHXSNs3boIu1JFSsIBQdHbHPKWKNWLvYY6ftMrsxal5gPxfkdAKa1KDx6 hsv+s3pr3PV70JFB1/KKUcD3xeC4pJ6ZTjC8o= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.150.113.13 with SMTP id l13mr3825030ybc.248.1259875998448; Thu, 03 Dec 2009 13:33:18 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <4B182820.4020407@lojban.org.uk> References: <5715b9300912030842s1798ba63pd668de8a4452df97@mail.gmail.com> <20091203192136.GA5893@sdf.lonestar.org> <5715b9300912031234s5af2c896k2f7459d7d25c0a0a@mail.gmail.com> <4B182820.4020407@lojban.org.uk> Date: Thu, 3 Dec 2009 16:33:18 -0500 Message-ID: <5715b9300912031333u73904d12y9a4905eabfa4818@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: [lojban] Re: subliminal learning lojban? From: Luke Bergen To: lojban-list@lojban.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000e0cd3ae80593c770479d9bd40 --000e0cd3ae80593c770479d9bd40 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Well the funny thing is, the link in my first message has samples of the mp3s that you get and the one is just 10 minutes of waves at the ocean, the second one "uses hypersonic tones" so..... blank nothing. On Thu, Dec 3, 2009 at 4:05 PM, kozmikreis wrote: > Definitely snake oil - there are similar ad listings on eBay; I sent a > message to each seller asking for a contact number so I could call and hear > for myself just how good their Lojban was before I'd consider placing an > order. Funnily enough I received no reply :-) > > Paul > (kozmikreis) > > > > Luke Bergen wrote: > >> I was kind of wondering if that was the case. >> >> On Thu, Dec 3, 2009 at 2:21 PM, Minimiscience > minimiscience@gmail.com>> wrote: >> >> de'i li 03 pi'e 12 pi'e 2009 la'o fy. Luke Bergen .fy. cusku zoi >> skamyxatra. >> > I found this just now: http://www.suburbandestiny.com/?p=588 in >> which the >> > blogger mentions "subliminal learning lojban" here: >> > ... >> > What is this thing? Is this in any way associated with LLG or >> anything >> > official? >> .skamyxatra >> >> This is what is known as a "scam." If you click the "Brainwave >> Mind Voyages" >> link, you'll see that the sellers appear to have grabbed a bunch >> of random >> subjects and slapped them onto FSM only knows what, combined with >> utter abuse >> of New Age-sounding scientific vocabulary to rope in their key >> demographic: >> idiots. Buying this just to see what it is (and I will bet you >> 10,000 to 1 >> that it doesn't work) will not be worth your while. >> >> Also, some advice for the next couple of decades: If it has the >> word "quantum" >> in it and it is not a physics textbook or course from a >> respectable university, >> keep it away from your money. >> >> mu'omi'e .kamymecraijun. >> >> -- >> do ta'e pilno le va valsi .i mi na jinvi lodu'u ri valsi da poi do >> jinvi lodu'u >> ri valsi ke'a >> >> >> To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to >> lojban-list-request@lojban.org >> >> with the subject unsubscribe, or go to >> http://www.lojban.org/lsg2/, or if >> you're really stuck, send mail to secretary@lojban.org >> for help. >> >> >> > > > To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to lojban-list-request@lojban.org > with the subject unsubscribe, or go to http://www.lojban.org/lsg2/, or if > you're really stuck, send mail to secretary@lojban.org for help. > > --000e0cd3ae80593c770479d9bd40 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Well the funny thing is, the link in my first message has samples of the mp= 3s that you get and the one is just 10 minutes of waves at the ocean, the s= econd one "uses hypersonic tones" so..... blank nothing.

On Thu, Dec 3, 2009 at 4:05 PM, kozmikreis <kozmikreis@loj= ban.org.uk> wrote:
Definitely snake oil - there are similar ad listings on eBay; I sent a mess= age to each seller asking for a contact number so I could call and hear for= myself just how good their Lojban was before I'd consider placing an o= rder. =A0Funnily enough I received no reply :-)

Paul
(kozmikreis)



Luke Bergen wrote:
I was kind of wondering if that was the case.

On Thu, Dec 3, 2009 at 2:21 PM, Minimiscience <minimiscience@gmail.com <mailto:= minimiscience@= gmail.com>> wrote:

=A0 =A0de'i li 03 pi'e 12 pi'e 2009 la'o fy. Luke Bergen .= fy. cusku zoi
=A0 =A0skamyxatra.
=A0 =A0> I found this just now: http://www.suburbandestiny.com/?p=3D588 = in
=A0 =A0which the
=A0 =A0> blogger mentions "subliminal learning lojban" here:<= br> =A0 =A0> ...
=A0 =A0> What is this thing? =A0Is this in any way associated with LLG = or
=A0 =A0anything
=A0 =A0> official?
=A0 =A0.skamyxatra

=A0 =A0This is what is known as a "scam." =A0If you click the &q= uot;Brainwave
=A0 =A0Mind Voyages"
=A0 =A0link, you'll see that the sellers appear to have grabbed a bunc= h
=A0 =A0of random
=A0 =A0subjects and slapped them onto FSM only knows what, combined with =A0 =A0utter abuse
=A0 =A0of New Age-sounding scientific vocabulary to rope in their key
=A0 =A0demographic:
=A0 =A0idiots. =A0Buying this just to see what it is (and I will bet you =A0 =A010,000 to 1
=A0 =A0that it doesn't work) will not be worth your while.

=A0 =A0Also, some advice for the next couple of decades: If it has the
=A0 =A0word "quantum"
=A0 =A0in it and it is not a physics textbook or course from a
=A0 =A0respectable university,
=A0 =A0keep it away from your money.

=A0 =A0mu'omi'e .kamymecraijun.

=A0 =A0--
=A0 =A0do ta'e pilno le va valsi .i mi na jinvi lodu'u ri valsi da= poi do
=A0 =A0jinvi lodu'u
=A0 =A0ri valsi ke'a


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=A0 =A0http://ww= w.lojban.org/lsg2/, or if
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=A0 =A0<mailto:secretary@lojban.org> for help.





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