From lukeabergen@gmail.com Thu Dec 03 17:05:50 2009 Received: from mail-yw0-f187.google.com ([209.85.211.187]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1NGMcD-0004Qk-EW for lojban-list@lojban.org; Thu, 03 Dec 2009 17:05:50 -0800 Received: by ywh17 with SMTP id 17so2071554ywh.2 for ; Thu, 03 Dec 2009 17:05:38 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=ZP+d/BGpwxp3MdBBugUyp8wXlgd7jJj9pjJPVQuDvV4=; b=IjC8RPT250h06xF7RZ/TMz+3ZK5luSIxmID41PL1Xc5f8bt48TueDLTTuXkITskuHM tVUMIS6tulYkCSALpE9xTGEgU8UYnPuFCZXfmQErJhQw2b05jaGgGmdExqhhpUzVcPqm I6oCrU4ynd0CL91CIAZHGIDHkWqqDmS6gIZ6Q= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=DiidRPpQnAiPZU65DpSooJRZgkDxZ72YIXycrb0EqCBHGeUDBa7vJhFsGFR13HHzqf DvG5xupxXIIgI3MkmQrvpRwpAMEfCVLt6gGUGAmyFabKeVIpJ0SCwOftQDajaAsxxm+n MIq8QzkCrF21cXfZuVNdzrS+61wMeyHf+ss84= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.150.19.30 with SMTP id 30mr4222829ybs.134.1259888732612; Thu, 03 Dec 2009 17:05:32 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <925d17560912031606o84fd29cg3b882f9e620ef901@mail.gmail.com> References: <925d17560912031025v756adb41x909ab4dc11f28fe@mail.gmail.com> <925d17560912031351u371119c8nce6329be6fd90728@mail.gmail.com> <925d17560912031513q7bbc1d1bu89ddeb8c21f48172@mail.gmail.com> <5715b9300912031540i41f36591mb91b3384f7ae11d7@mail.gmail.com> <925d17560912031606o84fd29cg3b882f9e620ef901@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 3 Dec 2009 20:05:32 -0500 Message-ID: <5715b9300912031705k6a6cd55cg7744ff3e77a094a7@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: [lojban] Re: what's a du'u? From: Luke Bergen To: lojban-list@lojban.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000e0cd6afe05d2a280479dcb42d --000e0cd6afe05d2a280479dcb42d Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable .ua so that's how a valid answer to {.i xu do klama} can be {go'i}. I always kind of wondered what happened to the {xu} when a person says {go'i}. Although.... how is it that the {xu} doesn't get included when you have A: {do klama ti xu ta} B: {go'i} ? 2009/12/3 Jorge Llamb=EDas > On Thu, Dec 3, 2009 at 8:40 PM, Luke Bergen wrote= : > > > > jufra in particular has always seemed kind of weird to me. Everywhere > > through the red book we see things like {bridi}, but then all of a sudd= en > > there's this concept of a "sentence" which as far as I know has no > official > > definition. Or am I wrong about that? > > I don't know about official, but I would say for example that "ge ti > cmalu gi ta barda" is one jufra that contains two bridi (in the > bridi=3Dtext sense). So jufra is more general than bridi. Also, a jufra > can have a prenex, whereas the bridi presumably is only the part that > comes after the prenex. > > mu'o mi'e xorxes > > > To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to lojban-list-request@lojban.or= g > with the subject unsubscribe, or go to http://www.lojban.org/lsg2/, or if > you're really stuck, send mail to secretary@lojban.org for help. > > --000e0cd6afe05d2a280479dcb42d Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable .ua

so that's how a valid answer to {.i xu do klama} can be {go&= #39;i}.=A0 I always kind of wondered what happened to the {xu} when a perso= n says {go'i}.=A0 Although.... how is it that the {xu} doesn't get = included when you have
A:=A0 {do klama ti xu ta}
B:=A0 {go'i}
?

2009/12/3 Jorge Llamb=EDas <jjllambias@gmail.com>
On Thu, Dec 3, 2009 at 8:40 PM, Luke Bergen <lukeabergen@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> jufra in particular has always seemed kind of weird to me.=A0 Everywhe= re
> through the red book we see things like {bridi}, but then all of a sud= den
> there's this concept of a "sentence" which as far as I k= now has no official
> definition.=A0 Or am I wrong about that?

I don't know about official, but I would say for example that &qu= ot;ge ti
cmalu gi ta barda" is one jufra that contains two bridi (in the
bridi=3Dtext sense). So jufra is more general than bridi. Also, a jufra
can have a prenex, whereas the bridi presumably is only the part that
comes after the prenex.

mu'o mi'e xorxes


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