From matt.mattarn@gmail.com Thu Dec 03 18:21:36 2009 Received: from mail-gx0-f224.google.com ([209.85.217.224]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1NGNnW-0001Mf-Cl for lojban-list@lojban.org; Thu, 03 Dec 2009 18:21:36 -0800 Received: by gxk24 with SMTP id 24so1258199gxk.6 for ; Thu, 03 Dec 2009 18:21:23 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=U/sq2Uk5hs9Jr8cgAuGcDIV86DX3AoFYk4LbIhr6Mmg=; b=TF9e3b0qKBdpuLKyCIF12ZBjyT98Jo+tfcswx2I9Z3BHUI8wpP5BLlUKQgrwTx5Ku+ uxFZABwR9gP98IoXmbmqans+XeRFGqeWOOqSKkNbpRFcDRaDWHiHu/egj08xRR5WK2IF npFEvpFi7bczdF0vS2tZnaoz7eV6swVhJ3wG0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=gkfUEQXL+f+d82VlX8Uq+mP+eLnzqtwU2eTy+YT4m0F6P1Et057JBnmvkvaRYcfHw4 EjHxDQ8jPMiPgXHzIswm2pnetPehHMIcPy145iLUBCwk3b/jNRPVM/3r0hZVqZCDVB8C /ocUD6p9kttOY14dx0IsuVKgPq5lcTahve8Cs= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.151.2.33 with SMTP id e33mr4375002ybi.58.1259893283326; Thu, 03 Dec 2009 18:21:23 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <702226df0912031642i3510e69ay72598b91d26397e4@mail.gmail.com> References: <702226df0912031545r6cd4c3b3q49f773eb306ad17d@mail.gmail.com> <702226df0912031552q7f7fb0a1y5f8b8b9f05049b7d@mail.gmail.com> <27513e550912031607o6a8cf91gf4bbc7c400ad74e7@mail.gmail.com> <702226df0912031642i3510e69ay72598b91d26397e4@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 3 Dec 2009 21:21:23 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban] Re: Smart.fm and Lojban From: Matt Arnold To: lojban-list@lojban.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Send me a script to read, and I'll make some recordings for you. -Eppcott On Thu, Dec 3, 2009 at 7:42 PM, Jon "Top Hat" Jones wrote: > So, you vote all-inclusive, then? > > And as for the audio, dict.cc wouldn't be of any help, due to the simple > fact that it doesn't have lojban. If anyone does already have audio of the > 1200 or so gismu, THAT would help. > > On Thu, Dec 3, 2009 at 6:07 PM, Oren wrote: >> >> I haven't taken a hard look at the options available for smart.fm, but I'd >> say from my personal study, I prefer the concept on one side, all the >> information about it on the other side, and then an example of usage on a >> third side if possible. >> >> As for collaborative audio, another platform that could be used (once they >> add lojban, of course) is dict.cc, which already streamlines user-driven >> online mp3 recording and verification. Dict.cc databases are always >> available for download. >> >> mu'o mi'e ku'us >> >> On Fri, Dec 4, 2009 at 07:52, Jon "Top Hat" Jones >> wrote: >>> >>> Addendum: I've added the alphabetically first gismu, bacru, to the lesson >>> to provide an example of what the entries would look like. >>> >>> On Thu, Dec 3, 2009 at 5:45 PM, Jon "Top Hat" Jones >>> wrote: >>>> >>>> I've decided to add the gismu as a lesson on Smart.fm, and I wanted to >>>> discuss this with rodo. >>>> >>>> First, I'd like to invite anyone interested in helping to complete the >>>> lesson to do so. I'm not certain how collaboration works, but I do know it's >>>> possible. >>>> >>>> Second, I have a question as to formatting for the individual items, >>>> that being, which entry method would be better for learners? >>>> >>>> 1) All-inclusive, i.e.: >>>> >>>> Item: >>>> text: klama >>>> translation: x1 travels to x2 from x3 via route x4 by means of x5 >>>> >>>> 2) Individual, i.e.: >>>> >>>> Item: >>>> text: lo klama >>>> translation: A traveller >>>> >>>> Item: >>>> text: lo se klama >>>> translation: A traveller's origin >>>> >>>> Item: >>>> text: lo te klama >>>> translation: A traveller's destination >>>> >>>> Item: >>>> text: lo ve klama >>>> translation: A route travelled >>>> >>>> Item: >>>> text: lo xe klama >>>> translation: A method of travelling >>>> >>>> 3) Both 1 and 2. >>>> >>>> Lastly, seeing as Smart.fm's English text-to-speech will incorrectly >>>> pronounce Lojban words, and assuming that no language pronounces things >>>> exactly as Lojban does, audio needs to be recorded for each entry so that >>>> learners hear the words as they are meant to be heard. So, should each >>>> contributor record the audio for the entries s/he contributes, or should one >>>> person be selected to do all the audio? >>>> >>>> -- >>>> mu'o mi'e .aionys. >>>> >>>> .i.a'o.e'e ko klama le bende pe denpa bu >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> mu'o mi'e .aionys. >>> >>> .i.a'o.e'e ko klama le bende pe denpa bu >>> >> > > > > -- > mu'o mi'e .aionys. > > .i.a'o.e'e ko klama le bende pe denpa bu > >