From jwodder@sdf.lonestar.org Thu Dec 17 08:12:05 2009 Received: from ol.freeshell.org ([192.94.73.20] helo=sdf.lonestar.org) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1NLIxC-0003Bq-De for lojban-list@lojban.org; Thu, 17 Dec 2009 08:12:04 -0800 Received: from sdf.lonestar.org (IDENT:jwodder@ukato.freeshell.org [192.94.73.7]) by sdf.lonestar.org (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id nBHGBkCB025307 for ; Thu, 17 Dec 2009 16:11:46 GMT Received: (from jwodder@localhost) by sdf.lonestar.org (8.14.3/8.12.8/Submit) id nBHGBkme005860 for lojban-list@lojban.org; Thu, 17 Dec 2009 16:11:46 GMT Date: Thu, 17 Dec 2009 16:11:46 +0000 From: Minimiscience To: lojban-list@lojban.org Subject: Re: [lojban] Word for 'fusion tape'? Message-ID: <20091217161140.GC12173@sdf.lonestar.org> Mail-Followup-To: lojban-list@lojban.org References: <40b71af30912170801k6d778a29h7ccd6c41163ba6de@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <40b71af30912170801k6d778a29h7ccd6c41163ba6de@mail.gmail.com> Organization: SDF Public Access UNIX System User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) de'i li 17 pi'e 12 pi'e 2009 la'o fy. Frank .fy. cusku zoi skamyxatra. > I'm trying to construct a word/phrase for 'fusion tape', the sticky > ribbon which joins together surfaces of fabric. There's 'le nipsri pe le > bukpu'. But it translates to "sticky ribbon associated with cloth", which > is rather ambiguous in My opinion. If could mean "sticky ribbon made from a > piece of cloth", "sticky ribbon already attached to a piece of cloth", etc. > I guess, since I want to use the word/phrase as a sumti, I'm looking for > away to 'access' the 2nd place of nipsri when using the whole contraption as > said sumti. My instincts are saying this is in L4B or CLL but I didn't find > it yet. .skamyxatra You're looking for internal {sumti} attached to a {tanru} with "{be}"/"{bei}"/"{be'o}," which is covered in chapter 9 of *Lojban for Beginners*. In this case, assuming that you want to say "sticky ribbon sticking to cloth," then according to jbovlaste, you need to fill the x3 of "{nipsri}." This can be done with "{lo nipsri be fi lo bukpu}." -- noda makfa bu'u le vi munje