From eyeonus@gmail.com Thu Dec 24 19:31:22 2009 Received: from ey-out-1920.google.com ([74.125.78.147]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1NO0ta-0005W2-0O for lojban-list@lojban.org; Thu, 24 Dec 2009 19:31:22 -0800 Received: by ey-out-1920.google.com with SMTP id 3so2007510eyh.36 for ; Thu, 24 Dec 2009 19:31:16 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=qzGnfh+vpn4w545+MXky/oz4DwTwK6CJRY4GN4DT/1s=; b=Zcq1/tQLG6Bh7wFB8ynteKhmdZn53hwytaCBIvrYUYbICqaFa7IEsGSJukvxaIT/J/ qeO8HvGxqPwZuhvlNQgJHpRJLxfuc9x1BXsEtCv9C/hSssTeZY57THA/j50CYlcytFCf V6lnkgEdQO/EiQgzhjSW93rzkGanEEQd8Iic4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=xJBKOV8pwCVhGxk0bTu2/b930yeyl0IH+K8Ho5ojq+xinZu1PKv3253L0pLQ7VKimk UUHNYtYXhFLEE0Pv/hdFQ0jO4Z5rbzg2/kHhG1Dv5FOslx7bqakvcMe9PKo49N9cdWlx Y3zqfEq2vd97kWlMirV0Vx5RP+K84DB3F6yHc= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.216.85.209 with SMTP id u59mr4578846wee.109.1261711875938; Thu, 24 Dec 2009 19:31:15 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <249d5b950912241917q55f18a2ft2ea9eae6a42aeaa9@mail.gmail.com> References: <702226df0912031545r6cd4c3b3q49f773eb306ad17d@mail.gmail.com> <27513e550912150857w3e784e07w677ae0ce3142e19e@mail.gmail.com> <702226df0912151247t18e20092m970c8d2ad94f432c@mail.gmail.com> <702226df0912151319p3f3b8a80m99739f4dd7d3b8c@mail.gmail.com> <27513e550912151712k705b63b7mff8686e08ff776d5@mail.gmail.com> <702226df0912161222i4caac5b0y96e2602a837de702@mail.gmail.com> <702226df0912241659k43eeb48am63f78bec141a9792@mail.gmail.com> <702226df0912241711x6173e6f9uf8957c104823007d@mail.gmail.com> <249d5b950912241917q55f18a2ft2ea9eae6a42aeaa9@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 25 Dec 2009 21:31:15 +1800 Message-ID: <702226df0912241931r25fb98bbq527b30322dc3ebe6@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: [lojban] Re: [lojban-beginners] Re: Smart.fm and Lojban From: "Jon \"Top Hat\" Jones" To: lojban-list@lojban.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016e6d7ee562c9a8f047b8530dd --0016e6d7ee562c9a8f047b8530dd Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Well, here's the definition of broda as taken from the gismu list: broda predicate var 1 1st assignable variable predicate (*context determines place structure*) On Fri, Dec 25, 2009 at 9:17 PM, Steven Lytle wrote: > What do you mean by "the place structures of these gismu are variable"? > Gismu place structures are as fixed as the gismu themselves. > > stevo > > On Thu, Dec 24, 2009 at 8:11 PM, Jon "Top Hat" Jones wrote: > >> I'm getting to the point of adding the brodV gismu, and I have some >> questions about them. >> >> Should I make sumti entries for them? i.e. lo broda, lo se broda.... >> >> If so, should I make all five sumti places, just the first, or somewhere >> in between? >> >> Should I make a seperate entry for each one, or a single entry for all >> five? >> >> My inclination is to ONLY make the gismu entries, one for each, and to not >> make any sumti entries at all, mainly due to the fact that the place >> structures of these gismu are variable. >> >> >> On Fri, Dec 25, 2009 at 6:59 PM, Jon "Top Hat" Jones wrote: >> >>> So whta's everyone's status on this project? I haven't heard from anyone >>> about this in quite a while now. Is anyone besides myself still working on >>> this? >>> >>> >>> On Thu, Dec 17, 2009 at 2:22 PM, Jon "Top Hat" Jones wrote: >>> >>>> Delete is in the "My Items" area, although it doesn't always show up. >>>> >>>> On 12/16/09, Oren wrote: >>>>> >>>>> On Wed, Dec 16, 2009 at 05:19, Jon "Top Hat" Jones wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> You'll need to delete the duplicate entries you made, as you're the >>>>>> only person that can. >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> I guess then what happens is when you click 'edit' on a card you didn't >>>>> create, it copies that card and gives you ownership of the new one-- so I >>>>> can only delete my own recordings' items, not alter the ones I'm trying to >>>>> fix? Either way, I'm really drawing a blank-- I can't find 'delete' >>>>> anywhere... It may be that my chinese internet is too slow? It takes about a >>>>> minute to load the list for me and often the 'order by' and 'show' options >>>>> don't load whatsoever. >>>>> >>>>> fe'o >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> mu'o mi'e .aionys. >>>> >>>> .i.a'o.e'e ko klama le bende pe denpa bu >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> mu'o mi'e .aionys. >>> >>> .i.a'o.e'e ko klama le bende pe denpa bu >>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> mu'o mi'e .aionys. >> >> .i.a'o.e'e ko klama le bende pe denpa bu >> >> > -- mu'o mi'e .aionys. .i.a'o.e'e ko klama le bende pe denpa bu --0016e6d7ee562c9a8f047b8530dd Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Well, here's the definition of broda as taken from the gismu list:
<= br>broda=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 predicate var 1=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0= =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 1st assignable varia= ble predicate (context determines place structure)

On Fri, Dec 25, 2009 at 9:17 PM, Steven Lytl= e <lytlesw@gmail.= com> wrote:
What do you mean by "the place structures of these gismu are vari= able"?
Gismu place structures are as fixed as the gismu themselves.
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stevo

On Thu, Dec 24, 2009 at 8:11 PM, Jon "Top H= at" Jones <eyeonus@gmail.com> wrote:
I'm getting t= o the point of adding the brodV gismu, and I have some questions about them= .

Should I make sumti entries for them? i.e. lo broda, lo se broda....
If so, should I make all five sumti places, just the first, or somewher= e in between?

Should I make a seperate entry for each one, or a sing= le entry for all five?

My inclination is to ONLY make the gismu entr= ies, one for each, and to not make any sumti entries at all, mainly due to = the fact that the place structures of these gismu are variable.=20


On Fri, Dec 25, 2009 at 6:59 PM, Jon "Top H= at" Jones <eyeonus@gmail.com> wrote:
So whta's eve= ryone's status on this project? I haven't heard from anyone about t= his in quite a while now. Is anyone besides myself still working on this?= =20


On Thu, Dec 17, 2009 at 2:22 PM, Jon "Top H= at" Jones <eyeonus@gmail.com> wrote:
Delete is in the = "My Items" area, although it doesn't always show up.

On 12/16/09, Oren <get.o= ren@gmail.com> wrote:=20
On Wed, Dec 16, 2009 at 05:19, Jon "Top Hat&quo= t; Jones <eyeonus@gmail.com> wrote:
You'll need to delete the duplicate entries you made, as you'r= e the only person that can.

I guess then= what happens is when you click 'edit' on a card you didn't cre= ate, it copies that card and gives you ownership of the new one-- so I can = only delete my own recordings' items, not alter the ones I'm trying= to fix? Either way, I'm really drawing a blank-- I can't find '= ;delete' anywhere... It may be that my chinese internet is too slow? It= takes about a minute to load the list for me and often the 'order by&#= 39; and 'show' options don't load whatsoever.

fe'o



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