From get.oren@gmail.com Thu Dec 24 19:47:18 2009 Received: from mail-pw0-f47.google.com ([209.85.160.47]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1NO18z-0006lk-0s for lojban-list@lojban.org; Thu, 24 Dec 2009 19:47:17 -0800 Received: by pwi1 with SMTP id 1so6055705pwi.26 for ; Thu, 24 Dec 2009 19:47:07 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :from:date:message-id:subject:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=PoYR3iANCKDqIDh/glK54Akbm3kf91vN0XHxsp5o7oo=; b=mr9IEih6Ec01BB6JomAW+mgc9WGGinUXiWpDjXJ1RvSWZWREQWiFML+EU3Esx1f7WJ oO6yxIGJ5ql89ig2SpDDWpX7Y51C1jqY2i/aW19EJ4hGockbzd6E0htZpKmrpXRctOcD /wnH/89nlV6munkg+RLuGk4PDZV1pMj2hi/NM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=NPDw/lB69we1vp+ic1GJcZX6KYMtxO2CwUqoKNG8Xu0ARYzkpkXVBoDh2DOYznuQmk QPv6cuH0cPxOvi2Iy9Iq293U955ebeBg1f9mtHf8r2z4Emw8Son6CUg4R2yHO9AIUpql 8GuxJzNbWmiXQCBND5x9f7RR1h0iGwM7FvlQU= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.142.122.6 with SMTP id u6mr8234642wfc.95.1261712827071; Thu, 24 Dec 2009 19:47:07 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <702226df0912241931r25fb98bbq527b30322dc3ebe6@mail.gmail.com> References: <702226df0912031545r6cd4c3b3q49f773eb306ad17d@mail.gmail.com> <27513e550912150857w3e784e07w677ae0ce3142e19e@mail.gmail.com> <702226df0912151247t18e20092m970c8d2ad94f432c@mail.gmail.com> <702226df0912151319p3f3b8a80m99739f4dd7d3b8c@mail.gmail.com> <27513e550912151712k705b63b7mff8686e08ff776d5@mail.gmail.com> <702226df0912161222i4caac5b0y96e2602a837de702@mail.gmail.com> <702226df0912241659k43eeb48am63f78bec141a9792@mail.gmail.com> <702226df0912241711x6173e6f9uf8957c104823007d@mail.gmail.com> <249d5b950912241917q55f18a2ft2ea9eae6a42aeaa9@mail.gmail.com> <702226df0912241931r25fb98bbq527b30322dc3ebe6@mail.gmail.com> From: Oren Date: Fri, 25 Dec 2009 11:46:47 +0800 Message-ID: <27513e550912241946o5b7fbb74x828d18f90ec2648b@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: [lojban] Re: [lojban-beginners] Re: Smart.fm and Lojban To: lojban-list@lojban.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I think you just swap the first and xth place { x1 [gismu] x2 x3 x4 x5 } { x2 se [gismu] x1 x3 x4 x5 } { x3 te [gismu] x2 x1 x4 x5 } { x4 ve [gismu] x2 x3 x1 x5 } { x5 xe [gismu] x2 x3 x4 x1 } ::looks for reference:: On Fri, Dec 25, 2009 at 11:31, Jon "Top Hat" Jones wrot= e: > Well, here's the definition of broda as taken from the gismu list: > > broda=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 predicate var 1=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0= =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 1st assignable > variable predicate (context determines place structure) > > On Fri, Dec 25, 2009 at 9:17 PM, Steven Lytle wrote: >> >> What do you mean by "the place structures of these gismu are variable"? >> Gismu place structures are as fixed as the gismu themselves. >> >> stevo >> >> On Thu, Dec 24, 2009 at 8:11 PM, Jon "Top Hat" Jones >> wrote: >>> >>> I'm getting to the point of adding the brodV gismu, and I have some >>> questions about them. >>> >>> Should I make sumti entries for them? i.e. lo broda, lo se broda.... >>> >>> If so, should I make all five sumti places, just the first, or somewher= e >>> in between? >>> >>> Should I make a seperate entry for each one, or a single entry for all >>> five? >>> >>> My inclination is to ONLY make the gismu entries, one for each, and to >>> not make any sumti entries at all, mainly due to the fact that the plac= e >>> structures of these gismu are variable. >>> >>> On Fri, Dec 25, 2009 at 6:59 PM, Jon "Top Hat" Jones >>> wrote: >>>> >>>> So whta's everyone's status on this project? I haven't heard from anyo= ne >>>> about this in quite a while now. Is anyone besides myself still workin= g on >>>> this? >>>> >>>> On Thu, Dec 17, 2009 at 2:22 PM, Jon "Top Hat" Jones >>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Delete is in the "My Items" area, although it doesn't always show up. >>>>> >>>>> On 12/16/09, Oren wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> On Wed, Dec 16, 2009 at 05:19, Jon "Top Hat" Jones >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> You'll need to delete the duplicate entries you made, as you're the >>>>>>> only person that can. >>>>>> >>>>>> I guess then what happens is when you click 'edit' on a card you >>>>>> didn't create, it copies that card and gives you ownership of the ne= w one-- >>>>>> so I can only delete my own recordings' items, not alter the ones I'= m trying >>>>>> to fix? Either way, I'm really drawing a blank-- I can't find 'delet= e' >>>>>> anywhere... It may be that my chinese internet is too slow? It takes= about a >>>>>> minute to load the list for me and often the 'order by' and 'show' o= ptions >>>>>> don't load whatsoever. >>>>>> >>>>>> fe'o >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> mu'o mi'e .aionys. >>>>> >>>>> .i.a'o.e'e ko klama le bende pe denpa bu >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> mu'o mi'e .aionys. >>>> >>>> .i.a'o.e'e ko klama le bende pe denpa bu >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> mu'o mi'e .aionys. >>> >>> .i.a'o.e'e ko klama le bende pe denpa bu >>> >> > > > > -- > mu'o mi'e .aionys. > > .i.a'o.e'e ko klama le bende pe denpa bu > >