From yoav.nir@gmail.com Mon Jan 25 08:37:47 2010 Received: from mail-bw0-f215.google.com ([209.85.218.215]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1NZRwb-0003LD-3j for lojban-list@lojban.org; Mon, 25 Jan 2010 08:37:46 -0800 Received: by bwz7 with SMTP id 7so601866bwz.26 for ; Mon, 25 Jan 2010 08:37:34 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=7wJO8o4Tj+JzkUPISFbbq7JAioeCI4HUzaFEwUJ9r+Y=; b=PEebO6p/v5ijpsAj2e5lj0F9T2TQItBuoSzWfH/YSf7nxLU0DhQXa76kb/QmA8QhKj gw8UYD2G6OprUJXy+GCBRKI4liWz6aXkbb3y3rtVcfR0m6jqq+YBJXGnfebCc6A4L1CM 0bZsbxzWvfalgx1+37rDl2AjIRtSfNTC0IyqY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=E+OoVrPlZyivi4PXxZCEatcq3CZO5mNRrNr9Rrm1Yj2Yicsn/rQWfejvBjOet//P3t F99R7ETQWcX40NFvlZeW2GfjWnCuGJ618fR1BuAYDgdbh9n7S4dQM2EWes+I0oElaG4Q ZsnZeW37BMc9jaT9DKtPWlPxzjUcSHvCvCD2Y= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.10.146 with SMTP id p18mr4018448bkp.94.1264437454443; Mon, 25 Jan 2010 08:37:34 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <702226df1001250739q2094baaes1a6f48d4e7263346@mail.gmail.com> References: <71550651001241232t2a3b52ebod930a68426ac58e8@mail.gmail.com> <20100124205116.GA11064@sdf.lonestar.org> <5715b9301001241611y1dfa16b8h42cbf2e06d17f3@mail.gmail.com> <702226df1001250739q2094baaes1a6f48d4e7263346@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 25 Jan 2010 18:37:34 +0200 Message-ID: <71550651001250837t18a3397r2c14227d764b53da@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: [lojban] Re: New version of the jbovlaste-based PDF From: Yoav Nir To: lojban-list@lojban.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=00032555937a501726047dffc9f0 --00032555937a501726047dffc9f0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 It's not just a matter of formatting, although Richard's uses very small letters - I think it would be hard to read printed on A4 or US Letter. That dictionary has the gismu, the cmavo, and a grammar. Mine also has lujvo and fu'ivla - everything in jbovlaste. That's why mine needs a new edition every couple of months - stuff changes. On Mon, Jan 25, 2010 at 5:39 PM, Jon "Top Hat" Jones wrote: > Lojban Dictionary.pdfis 373 > pages, whereas Richard Curnow's dict.pdfis only 25, due to the change in formatting. I would much, much, much rather > have a 25 page document than a 373 page one, especially if I were to decide > for some reason that I wanted to print said document. > > Any chance you could change the format of Lojban Dictionary.pdfto address this? > > > On Sun, Jan 24, 2010 at 6:11 PM, Luke Bergen wrote: > >> I fracking love this pdf and have been using it for a while now. Keep up >> the good work everyone. Hey Yoav, do you know what the deal is with the >> comment on the page that: "Lojban Dictionary.pdf is >> the same as ld.pdf except >> that AmberShadow has added bookmarks for your navigating pleasure. It also >> appears to be about half the size in megabytes for no apparent reason." >> >> IMO this is essentially what the published dictionary should look like >> .a'ocai (with some obvious edits since you can't use 'search' in a paper >> copy. >> >> On Sun, Jan 24, 2010 at 3:51 PM, Minimiscience wrote: >> >>> de'i li 24 pi'e 01 pi'e 2010 la'o fy. Yoav Nir .fy. cusku zoi skamyxatra. >>> > - The PDF contains some "cheat sheets" for the beginning lojbanist. >>> I >>> > would like to have more. If you have the time and inclination to >>> make more >>> > such helpful pages, and are willing to put them in the public >>> domain, any >>> > help would be welcome. >>> .skamyxatra >>> >>> Richard Curnow once made a very exhaustive & compact set of cheat sheets >>> (including the {gismu} & {cmavo} lists), available at >>> (under "Reference >>> Material"). I'm sure you could use a good portion of that, assuming that >>> he >>> approves, of course. >>> >>> mu'omi'e .kamymecraijun. >>> >>> -- >>> ko senpi lo du'u do bilga lonu senpi >>> >>> >>> To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to >>> lojban-list-request@lojban.org >>> with the subject unsubscribe, or go to http://www.lojban.org/lsg2/, or >>> if >>> you're really stuck, send mail to secretary@lojban.org for help. >>> >>> >> > > > -- > mu'o mi'e .aionys. > > .i.a'o.e'e ko klama le bende pe denpa bu > > --00032555937a501726047dffc9f0 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
It's not just a matter of formatting, although Richard= 's uses very small letters - I think it would be hard to read printed o= n A4 or US Letter.

That dictionary has the gismu, the cm= avo, and a grammar. Mine also has lujvo and fu'ivla - everything in jbo= vlaste. That's why mine needs a new edition every couple of months - st= uff changes.

On Mon, Jan 25, 2010 at 5:39 PM, Jon "T= op Hat" Jones <eyeonus@gmail.com> wrote:
Lojban Dictionary.pdf is 373 pages, whereas Richard = Curnow's dict.pdf is only 25, due to the change in formatting. I wo= uld much, much, much rather have a 25 page document than a 373 page one, es= pecially if I were to decide for some reason that I wanted to print said do= cument.

Any chance you could change the format of Lojban Dictionary.pdf= to address this?


On Sun, Jan 24, 2010 at 6:11 PM, Luke Bergen= <lukeabergen@gmail.com> wrote:
I fracking love this pdf and have been using it for a while now. =A0Keep up= the good work everyone. =A0Hey Yoav, do you know what the deal is with the= comment on the page that: "Lojban Dictionary.pdf=A0is the= same as=A0ld.pdf=A0except tha= t AmberShadow has added bookmarks for your navigating pleasure. It also app= ears to be about half the size in megabytes for no apparent reason."

<= font face=3D"Verdana, Geneva, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size=3D"3">IMO this is essentially what th= e published dictionary should look like .a'ocai (with some obvious edit= s since you can't use 'search' in a paper copy.

On Sun, J= an 24, 2010 at 3:51 PM, Minimiscience <minimiscience@gmail.com&g= t; wrote:
de'i li 24 pi'e 01 pi'e 2010 la'o fy. Yoav Nir .fy. cusku z= oi skamyxatra.
> =A0 =A0- The PDF contains some "cheat sheets" for the beginn= ing lojbanist. =A0I
> =A0 =A0would like to have more. If you have the time and inclinat= ion to make more
> =A0 =A0such helpful pages, and are willing to put them in the public d= omain, any
> =A0 =A0help would be welcome.
.skamyxatra

Richard Curnow once made a very exhaustive & compact set of cheat sheet= s
(including the {gismu} & {cmavo} lists), available at
<http://www.rpcurnow.force9.co.uk/lojban/index.html> (und= er "Reference
Material"). =A0I'm sure you could use a good portion of that, assu= ming that he
approves, of course.

mu'omi'e .kamymecraijun.

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