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From: Pierre Abbat <phma@phma.optus.nu>
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Subject: Re: [lojban] Place structure of bijyjbu
Date: Sun, 3 Jan 2010 22:58:17 -0500
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On Sunday 03 January 2010 21:57:13 Geoff Hacker wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> I just looked up "desk" in the "current" version of the jvoste (it is
> "bijyjbu") and do not think that its place structure is very user-friendl=
y:
>
> x1 =3D jubme1 (table), x2 =3D jubme2 (table material), x3 =3D jubme3 (leg=
), x4 =3D
> briju2 (office worker)
> If I talk about a desk in an office, I am really highly unlikely to be
> referring to it in the context of what material or legs it has. I am far
> more likely to be saying that it is so-and-so's desk, and maybe after that
> further details about the office in which the desk appears, so I would ha=
ve
> thought a more logical place structure was:
>
> x1 =3D jubme1 (table), x2 =3D briju2 (office worker) x3 =3D briju1 (offic=
e) x4 =3D
> briju3 (office location) and then *maybe* x5 =3D jubme2 (table material -=
 so
> I could say, e.g., that it is a bijyjbu be fu lo [mahogany].)
>
> What do people think, and how would the jvoste get changed if a different
> consensus were reached?

I think the place structure should be kept as it is, for jvojva reasons. An=
=20
appropriate word for the place structure you're thinking of is "jbubriju". =
By=20
the way, mahogany is ma'agni - easy enough?

Pierre

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