From lindarthebard@yahoo.com Sun Jan 03 22:07:03 2010 Received: from web50407.mail.re2.yahoo.com ([206.190.38.72]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with smtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1NRg5k-0004Vj-6l for lojban-list@lojban.org; Sun, 03 Jan 2010 22:07:03 -0800 Received: (qmail 94870 invoked by uid 60001); 4 Jan 2010 06:06:53 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1262585212; bh=PgPhGxJMmxNp4t1u/cgawrW86ADVsRqJVHPtJIyHZ4w=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=V0wPqo1N1leWMVUfwEjFKw9147FLdO46+AMovuSQVhiXSDGSmV3RcWxc1wXC7+IwzlyOXLy/LeRHVEIBT9xdGaOKZ2iTyYWUANZA1pNZj9VXMTHO7c3mYEBMq2hGFaKiGNrWVTyrYshKo+H6UD844K74r2fG6PS20oT+Wh94gDo= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=TPU2ExXUsPvzth6yzqD/rDLF334J4hZMHfP8IfYIT+P+RC1RoCZZiPVYKN0WSokDUHkBGOdS8FCSIZ80Ex8WtG5gm5ZC6qd3oVfzW+mbH3RLN+MmFGy4bRRX5QHOgcaNSS7k9LVa0rMNGT+p+AZzSt87Uumx2KE9A1IOQphYGgg=; Message-ID: <972918.93077.qm@web50407.mail.re2.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: wlbJIY0VM1n0eZ71Do1mxb9geOD1XSK0y_XlnmTEfRbBTpmJbi4ujhtv8823x5LeCN7jLaISG3051EFFF1h8BTHrO6LjIjmkoESN5VzViib3U00M37Z4t5TmAC6y1844MZkyMumABRmQPIYKXmUetgmyPCenCyy7Ggo7go1EHlV4RYRLGgZ41BjD0V52TqmR537YgKUbk008kiZUyDVqfXkpCGtTxT1ID2OVgyIWyobYzmG99k8LJgdDL49H0yBxE2XcXy8V2NLtJVNnidnrhS0- Received: from [173.196.20.139] by web50407.mail.re2.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 03 Jan 2010 22:06:52 PST X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/240.3 YahooMailWebService/0.8.100.260964 References: <425e4ac21001031952t22834298oa24977c0eef72d35@mail.gmail.com> <175716.17467.qm@web50408.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <27513e551001032152p76aecf6fg281271b15e2959e6@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 3 Jan 2010 22:06:52 -0800 (PST) From: Lindar Greenwood Subject: Re: [lojban] Re: Initial impression To: lojban-list@lojban.org In-Reply-To: <27513e551001032152p76aecf6fg281271b15e2959e6@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable >I'll join this naming tangent!=0A>=0A>=0A>I chose the lojban name {ku'us} = because ku'u is the rafsi for ckunu (conifer), and my legal american name O= ren is Hebrew (=D7=90=D7=95=D7=A8=D7=9F) for pine tree. .ui=0A=0AThat's str= ange! *{ku'u} is a modal of {kulnu}, so perhaps this is not the best choice= for a clear interpretation?=0APerhaps a better choice would just be *{la c= kunu}. Either that, or you could be *{la selku'u} (Hi, my name is Pinecone!= ).=0A=0AHonestly, the *lojban thing* + s|n convention is getting stale, esp= ecially since there are names that end up "meaning" (it doesn't actually me= an anything in Lojban, but we get the idea, like for bancus or kribacr) som= ething when there was no intent. My name is one such thing that ends up 'me= aning' something because it's incidentally two rafsi (Hi, my name is 66 fee= t.) smashed together. Honestly, I'd just assume that your name outside of L= ojbanistan was something like "Kooce" or "Kuhuce" were I to see that name, = whereas *{la ckunu} is rather Unambiguous=E2=84=A2.=0A=0A>.i ta'onai=0A>=0A= >=0A>And I actually like the look of periods in front of attitudinals, beca= use in my mind attitudinals are like punctuation marks. Well, except that b= y definition they don't punctuate so much as freely add attitude anywhere, = but in a sense they do replace certain 'punctuation marks,' for example whe= n chatting, '!?!?!?' can sometimes be replaced with .o'onai=0A=0AS= econd.=0A=0A=0A=0A