From jjllambias@gmail.com Mon Jan 04 09:45:31 2010 Received: from mail-gx0-f224.google.com ([209.85.217.224]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1NRqzd-00072D-G8 for lojban-list@lojban.org; Mon, 04 Jan 2010 09:45:31 -0800 Received: by gxk24 with SMTP id 24so15117256gxk.6 for ; Mon, 04 Jan 2010 09:45:19 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=FxnCXoxEYwsj0MDD+RB/vfGCFdALKBZ3GKd0YwdMcPw=; b=P6hZOrAU4IACj8iwkrHl5PImy3JwwoOiShMH0Th3XQyV1cgRvylCR/cbqgO5HSL31w LIefe00PltRaV2tpqnE3fCFyyYPU2yQ5w+LJLPsYbzjEvigM0/syGYtV5npVC3LRPU1l 3N3N3hzSfIM9dSJiF1FVjpI3+QKvFkS2I/LXc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=XN4NuiLTHh4lmXhjG7i7O47E2E0193r1iRJ3mPBVOg8UAh4N1FR1yplt9waVVqa2mR KB9SFblVd5jsk74y06dwxDsqMk5H8hxIEaEcpdN86432CQ0CUsr2AKh1zRC54LwHiogg Fn0Q3kDjyez3Au0DUQau6M0nLkFD7xhAblqGc= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.91.213.6 with SMTP id p6mr3632626agq.103.1262627117754; Mon, 04 Jan 2010 09:45:17 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <201001041154.11669.phma@phma.optus.nu> References: <425e4ac21001031952t22834298oa24977c0eef72d35@mail.gmail.com> <201001041154.11669.phma@phma.optus.nu> Date: Mon, 4 Jan 2010 14:45:17 -0300 Message-ID: <925d17561001040945n55e47b81h21e09a1a0c7d654e@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: [lojban] Re: Initial impression From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jorge_Llamb=EDas?= To: lojban-list@lojban.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, Jan 4, 2010 at 1:54 PM, Pierre Abbat wrote: > And in Spanish it's common to > modify foreign names: Luther turns into Lutero, for instance. That was probably Luther -> Lutherus -> Lutero, so it got to Spanish via Latin rather than directly from German. If it had gone directly it would have been "L=FAter". That's not what Spanish does nowadays though, modern names from languages that use the Latin alphabet will not generally change their spelling. "Martin Luther King" remains "Martin Luther King" in Spanish, not "Mart=EDn Lutero King". What does happen is that transliterations from other alphabets are often different in Spanish than in English, so for example English "Khomeini", Spanish "Jomeini". mu'o mi'e xorxes