From phma@phma.optus.nu Tue Jan 12 19:13:36 2010 Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com ([75.180.132.120]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1NUtfm-0000Eh-Cg for lojban-list@lojban.org; Tue, 12 Jan 2010 19:13:36 -0800 X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=pGLkceISAAAA:8 a=qiuwFGCPAAAA:8 a=0HRBSpd468PqUDKFvKwA:9 a=HE6oTVSz3peTlOcDMdlc78I5QiwA:4 a=9ipxCdXOM44A:10 a=MSl-tDqOz04A:10 X-Cloudmark-Score: 0 X-Originating-IP: 71.71.198.100 Received: from [71.71.198.100] ([71.71.198.100:50029] helo=chausie) by cdptpa-oedge03.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.2.39 r()) with ESMTP id 4A/5A-17767-35A3D4B4; Wed, 13 Jan 2010 03:13:23 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by chausie (Postfix) with ESMTP id 38D6AE96 for ; Tue, 12 Jan 2010 22:13:21 -0500 (EST) From: Pierre Abbat To: lojban-list@lojban.org Subject: Re: [lojban] Re: shifting in tanru Date: Tue, 12 Jan 2010 22:13:18 -0500 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.6 (enterprise 0.20070907.709405) References: <5715b9301001121232t715e8e69n265381f070ded8ce@mail.gmail.com> <5715b9301001121321x3878127cwb56e277b8878756f@mail.gmail.com> <925d17561001121405o460c9b12k6decf80e3a044387@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <925d17561001121405o460c9b12k6decf80e3a044387@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <201001122213.19312.phma@phma.optus.nu> On Tuesday 12 January 2010 17:05:07 Jorge Llamb=EDas wrote: > On Tue, Jan 12, 2010 at 6:21 PM, Luke Bergen wrot= e: > > =A0Maybe I am thinking of {broda co brode}. =A0How does that work exact= ly? > > =A0I'll have to just read through the CLL again some time. > > See: http://jbotcan.org/docs/cll/c5/s8.html > > >>However, the existence of inversion in a selbri has a very special effe= ct > >> on any sumti which follow that selbri. Instead of being interpreted as > >> filling places of the selbri, they actually fill the places (starting > >> with x2) of the seltau. So in "mi lo nu kargau le vorme lo nu darxi ri troci co klama le bartu", "l= e=20 bartu" is x2 of "klama" even though there are three arguments before "troci= "? Pierre =2D-=20 lo ponse be lo mruli po'o cu ga'ezga roda lo ka dinko