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Date: Sat, 13 Feb 2010 11:44:27 -0800 (PST)
From: "A. PIEKARSKI" <totus@rogers.com>
Subject: Re: [lojban-beginners] Re: Help! The Xorlo are attacking!
To: lojban-beginners@lojban.org
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=0A=0A=0A=0A----- Original Message ----=0A> From: Jorge Llamb=EDas <jjllamb=
ias@gmail.com>=0A> To: lojban-beginners@lojban.org=0A> Sent: Sat, February =
13, 2010 10:19:50 AM=0A> Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: Help! The Xorlo ar=
e attacking!=0A> =0A> On Sat, Feb 13, 2010 at 11:53 AM, A. PIEKARSKI <> yma=
ilto=3D"mailto:totus@rogers.com" =0A> href=3D"mailto:totus@rogers.com">totu=
s@rogers.com> wrote:=0A>=0A> =0A> No wonder everyone is confused!=A0 Exactl=
y where are cmene and cmevla=0A> =0A> definitively defined?=0A=0A=0AAt some=
 point, after CLL and LfB were =0A> written, we decided that using=0A"cmene=
" in English with this specialized =0A> meaning was a bad idea,=0Abecause "=
cmene" doesn't mean and never meant that in =0A> Lojban. So at=0Athat point=
 English borrowed a new word from Lojban, "cmevla", =0A> to refer=0Ato thos=
e Lojban words that end in a consonant. "cmene" is now used =0A> in=0AEngli=
sh to mean "(any) Lojban name", which is still more =0A> restricted=0Athan =
its meaning in Lojban.=0A=0A=0AI understand what you are saying.=A0 But whe=
n you say "we", do you mean the BPFK =0A(i.e. is it 'official')?=A0 And whe=
re is this decision 'enshrined'?=A0 Shouldn't it be on some =0ABPFK page on=
 the wiki?=A0 After all, when there is an apparent discrepency between =0AC=
LL and jbovlaste, most people who don't know the history will likely choose=
 CLL as =0Athe final authority.=0A=0Atotus=0A