Received: from web46108.mail.sp1.yahoo.com ([68.180.199.125]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with smtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Nec7B-0001q9-7e for lojban-beginners@lojban.org; Mon, 08 Feb 2010 14:30:03 -0800 Received: (qmail 50247 invoked by uid 60001); 8 Feb 2010 22:29:50 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1265668190; bh=YDuf4zZ9cSd0VcV/QUTe4aeilLzq7WlMH5w0km26qr8=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=DML5PATzf4SDcCcPesphQvSFM8U6E7vGguVzuD0l2kKpH+Ib1Xr2f8ERSZ4SVi1xdLEvxWl+LBvHBLDM3b8WyOYX+6aB8fMqEtZFS0dgOOWe70fbv6cGBKkf3Cwr7TqzvUsFK3D7B13xqhSMN1ZSXXnMoB2G+qd4ULz9NvxMjOo= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=kRT0/pRRVWCbAY13YemcfmeIGk1hIukECidg2BhfxIYrZ0r0xk1XP+J0sdmcBMQmWMNr3rTpvmhlQXIblf7KjKjp3oR6/SniIVX4KedbB1IhFA+n/r2lV3D/r2kLhwyJ4JCPwAwtt9otayaGhlFApeOzK2u5hrxD18J7MvHJnVk=; Message-ID: <724422.50170.qm@web46108.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: McuHWVAVM1l7967IB9r6eMwbzo5_t5cINdKbvw7V_S24nhGt9uNTLC_gh2qrYsVyrvRm0GC2ZpHHkVdPAzEA7mtLBIcEAL1rl9pIT8G.4Aow1CTjyAKe_OKkbonGTAcYOOShHvXSrUE0M5kX7zYss.jzNuismEXjqPbw_FnVBvghc8fgHeArsM7DMeiFkaKY6e2NqwdB_6cZTti2nhD1mEBVntjmuVXlOY1URRf4t.OCQJAwJU.RRiQ3wgO25gTtrGk7RnuMu00pOt2HvgOu5yzQ_zvvNC.jE3jfUA-- Received: from [216.19.18.223] by web46108.mail.sp1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 08 Feb 2010 14:29:50 PST X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/272.7 YahooMailWebService/0.8.100.260964 References: <218950.62113.qm@web46104.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> <925d17561002081358if4eddacl7ccc619f0da8af3a@mail.gmail.com> <715718.90598.qm@web46101.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> <925d17561002081426l71dc6287q4c4cc4d3c3924b6f@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 8 Feb 2010 14:29:50 -0800 (PST) From: Whipsnerd Lhooser Subject: Re: [lojban-beginners] Re: Help! The Xorlo are attacking! To: lojban-beginners@lojban.org In-Reply-To: <925d17561002081426l71dc6287q4c4cc4d3c3924b6f@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-1649696462-1265668190=:50170" Content-Length: 4484 Lines: 65 --0-1649696462-1265668190=:50170 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I do understand the plural concept, however I forgot to include mention in = my definitions.=0A=0AThank you so much xorxes.,=0Akoltr.=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A____= ____________________________=0AFrom: Jorge Llamb=EDas =0ATo: lojban-beginners@lojban.org=0ASent: Mon, February 8, 2010 3:26:42 P= M=0ASubject: [lojban-beginners] Re: Help! The Xorlo are attacking!=0A=0AOn = Mon, Feb 8, 2010 at 7:18 PM, Whipsnerd Lhooser=0A wrote:=0A> Thank you xorxes. So, allow me to re-iterate:=0A>=0A> xorlo= simply refers to the idea that in an instance where a lojbanist is=0A> uns= ure of the proper gadri to be utilized, the default is lo.=0A>=0A> gadri is= the lojban equivalent of an English article (I do understand the=0A> princ= iple of malglico, however I'm using this for reference)=0A>=0A> la: Used on= ly for cmene; Is the article which immediately proceeds a cmene /=0A> it de= signates the next word as a cmene.=0A>=0A> le: A gadri which denotes a spec= ific thing/instance which the speaker has in=0A> mind. (le is optional and = may be substituted for lo)=0A>=0A> lo: A gadri which introduces a thing/ins= tance. (Specific or non-specific)=0A>=0A> loi: A gadri which says that an a= ttribute/action that is being applied to a=0A> group is being applied to th= at group as a whole, not necessarily to the=0A> individuals comprising that= group.=0A>=0A> Is this more correct?=0A=0AIt sounds fine to me. (Minor cav= eat, when you say "a thing/instance",=0Ait sounds like it's singular, but "= lo" does not specify number, so it=0Acould be a thing or things.)=0A=0Amu'o= mi'e xorxes=0A=0A=0A --0-1649696462-1265668190=:50170 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I do understand the plural concept, however I forgot to i= nclude mention in my definitions.

Thank you so much xorxes.,
kolt= r.

From: Jorge Llamb=EDas <jjll= ambias@gmail.com>
To: lojban-beginners@lojban.org
Sent= : Mon, February 8, 2010 3:26:42 PM
Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: Help! The Xorlo are = attacking!

=0AOn Mon, Feb 8, 2010 at 7:18 PM, Whipsnerd Lhoos= er
<synaptic.explosion@yahoo.com> wrote:<= br>> Thank you xorxes. So, allow me to re-iterate:
>
> xorlo= simply refers to the idea that in an instance where a lojbanist is
>= unsure of the proper gadri to be utilized, the default is lo.
>
&= gt; gadri is the lojban equivalent of an English article (I do understand t= he
> principle of malglico, however I'm using this for reference)
= >
> la: Used only for cmene; Is the article which immediately proc= eeds a cmene /
> it designates the next word as a cmene.
>
&= gt; le: A gadri which denotes a specific thing/instance which the speaker h= as in
> mind. (le is optional and may be substituted for lo)
><= br>> lo: A gadri which introduces a thing/instance. (Specific or non-spe= cific)
>
> loi: A gadri which says that an attribute/action that is being applied to = a
> group is being applied to that group as a whole, not necessarily = to the
> individuals comprising that group.
>
> Is this m= ore correct?

It sounds fine to me. (Minor caveat, when you say "a th= ing/instance",
it sounds like it's singular, but "lo" does not specify n= umber, so it
could be a thing or things.)

mu'o mi'e xorxes


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