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Date: Sat, 13 Feb 2010 17:00:54 -0300
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Subject: Re: [lojban-beginners] Re: Help! The Xorlo are attacking!
From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jorge_Llamb=EDas?= <jjllambias@gmail.com>
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On Sat, Feb 13, 2010 at 4:44 PM, A. PIEKARSKI <totus@rogers.com> wrote:
>> From: Jorge Llamb=EDas <jjllambias@gmail.com>
>
>> At some point, after CLL and LfB were
>> written, we decided that using "cmene" in English with this specialized
>> meaning was a bad idea, because "cmene" doesn't mean and never meant tha=
t in
>> Lojban.
>
> I understand what you are saying.=A0 But when you say "we", do you mean t=
he BPFK
> (i.e. is it 'official')?

I mean we the English speaking Lojban community. The BPFK does not
have any authority on the English language, does it?

> And where is this decision 'enshrined'?=A0 Shouldn't it be on some
> BPFK page on the wiki?=A0 After all, when there is an apparent discrepenc=
y between
> CLL and jbovlaste, most people who don't know the history will likely cho=
ose CLL as
> the final authority.

I don't think any of those have any official authority on English usage any=
way.

Are you concerned about the meaning of "cmene" and "cmevla" as used in
Lojban, or as used in English jargon when talking about Lojban?

"cmene" in Lojban has always meant "x1 is the name of x2 as used by
x3", it has never meant "word form that ends in a consonant".

"cmene" in English jargon is sometimes used to mean "Lojban word form
that ends in a consonant", but now we prefer to use "cmevla" for that.

mu'o mi'e xorxes