Received: from ey-out-1920.google.com ([74.125.78.148]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1NcL33-00046I-Oi for lojban-beginners@lojban.org; Tue, 02 Feb 2010 07:52:22 -0800 Received: by ey-out-1920.google.com with SMTP id 4so47645eyg.36 for ; Tue, 02 Feb 2010 07:52:16 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=VoL2XUbQeFsKnC/ivWXCdzhihKNg2FXHI/Pf4cTKEgg=; b=KxpPkq9d7I4YDQV7Q+83HeEfV1V9oxwcYCaxyJ+XixTXNzoDfzt8mM+DcHwQOAk/O3 2GrTjHzmqij+G1pSNlJTzEnDBpiMI66RAxz2PC8rh/lfwXJnb4PhSIIn4KureMgiLaEW Tz7PdWf/apL64HUrUL1ykL8QC5wY2JyFlZjP0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=HTOCD0Gl7izw0il3sHu6fGDy0mhsounbAqT2PvbkYw/55K4Wl3j+y+nysiB9ZTgD3z GgFgMBS0fCi+CZD5gJV/5AzlJuqUFnJL4tzFWAE78LR+IHiILkyXBPsgpMqCFMtfaziY euwmF5bOyPJiSG5wFVFRHSGyw4nlx+lQCnTC0= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.216.86.135 with SMTP id w7mr3443694wee.176.1265125935947; Tue, 02 Feb 2010 07:52:15 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <27513e551002020312s5727cf7fya35150ab1bd5f0b6@mail.gmail.com> References: <401240.5931.qm@web88003.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <702226df1002010715h68a3b3abuddaebae79ed8ea74@mail.gmail.com> <772284.89526.qm@web88004.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <702226df1002010907q401169b1w1467e38f44dfaf3d@mail.gmail.com> <221614.99169.qm@web88007.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <702226df1002011320y5c108575l2c201b4e607c234@mail.gmail.com> <702226df1002011331k4c07c9cfm9932ae55eaf6fcbb@mail.gmail.com> <27513e551002020312s5727cf7fya35150ab1bd5f0b6@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 2 Feb 2010 09:52:15 -0600 Message-ID: <702226df1002020752v3862f0dcs2d2004ccda9d8c51@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: [lojban-beginners] Re: smart.fm From: "Jon \"Top Hat\" Jones" To: lojban-beginners@lojban.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016e6d6495602b9c4047ea0162e Content-Length: 8546 Lines: 160 --0016e6d6495602b9c4047ea0162e Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 On Tue, Feb 2, 2010 at 5:12 AM, Oren wrote: > hey, the status of my mp3s is "on the way." Chinese new year is upon us. > > I'll also think very hard about solving the mp3 repository thing... Is > there some way to export or import mp3s with smart.fm? > As far as I know, the only way to import .mp3 files to Smart.fm is to attach them to a lesson item, and there is no way to export them short of playing one while you have something recording what comes out your speakers. I agree that their backend makes mp3 management a chore (maybe it's just in > china that it's very slow and can't list more than several dozen items per > page), but I almost feel like if there isn't a convenient way to port data > or manage data... why get our stuff stuck there? It only needs to be done > once, but it's also a good idea to sniff out other options. > Nope, I'm in the U.S., and it's just as slow for me, including the 20 items per page thing. And I agree that the lack of good data management is a low blow. The funny thing is, they *used* to have that stuff- before the recent interface changes, it *was* possible to make an entire lesson by importing, for instance, a text document. According to their news blog, they'll be bringing that back at some point, once they've finished making the site work well enough to stop getting complaints again. As far as the getting stuck bit- that's part of the reason why I want an online repository for the audio. Thanks to the Google Doc you made, everything *but* the audio already has a single place online to go, and I'm certain that, once all the simplified definitions are finished, it would be a relatively simple matter to add the items as a lesson in any of the other web-based language learning sites in extent. And if someone happened to come across a learning site that supported Lojban pronunciation, we wouldn't even need the audio for it. On Tue, Feb 2, 2010 at 05:31, Jon "Top Hat" Jones wrote: > >> I have come to the conclusion that it would be beneficial to this project >> if there was some sort of central online repository for the lojban audio re: >> the Smart.fm lessons, the reason being that it would be a simple matter for >> those of us who are putting the entries in the lessons would be able to >> download the audio for the entry from said repository. >> >> Obviously this means that the audio must be *done* first, and so far the >> only audio I am aware of is that which I have recorded myself, with one >> exception, which unfortunately was not used for reasons that do not need to >> be mentioned. >> >> Speaking of which, I know that at least 3 people offered to record audio, >> what is the status of their recordings? >> >> In any case, I am wondering if anyone has a suggestion for such a >> repository. Something free and easily accessible would be best. I know there >> is a site which is used for spoken audio, the name of which currently >> escapes me, but I am discouraged from using it as the site's purpose, IIRC, >> is for conversational spoken Lojban, and the audio for the Smart.fm lessons >> is merely gismu and the occasional {lo}, {se}, {te}, {ve}, and {xe}. >> >> -- >> mu'o mi'e .aionys. >> >> .i.a'o.e'e ko klama le bende pe denpa bu >> >> > -- mu'o mi'e .aionys. .i.a'o.e'e ko klama le bende pe denpa bu --0016e6d6495602b9c4047ea0162e Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
On Tue, Feb 2, 2010 at 5:12 AM, Oren <get.oren@gmail.com&g= t; wrote:
hey, the status of my mp3s is "on the way." Chin= ese new year is upon us.=A0

I'll also think very har= d about solving the mp3 repository thing... Is there some way to export or = import mp3s with smart.fm= ?=A0

As far as I know, the only way to im= port .mp3 files to Smart.fm is to attach them to a lesson item, and there i= s no way to export them short of playing one while you have something recor= ding what comes out your speakers.

I agree that their backend makes= mp3 management a chore (maybe it's just in china that it's very sl= ow and can't list more than several dozen items per page), but I almost= feel like if there isn't a convenient way to port data or manage data.= .. why get our stuff stuck there? It only needs to be done once, but it'= ;s also a good idea to sniff out other options.

Nope, I'm in the U.S., and it&#= 39;s just as slow for me, including the 20 items per page thing. And I agre= e that the lack of good data management is a low blow. The funny thing is, = they used to have that stuff- before the recent interface changes, i= t was possible to make an entire lesson by importing, for instance, = a text document. According to their news blog, they'll be bringing that= back at some point, once they've finished making the site work well en= ough to stop getting complaints again.

As far as the getting stuck bit- that's part of the reason why I wa= nt an online repository for the audio. Thanks to the Google Doc you made, e= verything but the audio already has a single place online to go, and= I'm certain that, once all the simplified definitions are finished, it= would be a relatively simple matter to add the items as a lesson in any of= the other web-based language learning sites in extent. And if someone happ= ened to come across a learning site that supported Lojban pronunciation, we= wouldn't even need the audio for it.

On Tue, Feb 2, 2010 at 05:31, Jon "Top= Hat" Jones <eyeonus@gmail.com> wrote:
I have come to the conclusion that it would be beneficial to this project i= f there was some sort of central online repository for the lojban audio re:= the Smart.fm lessons, the reason being that it would be a simple matter fo= r those of us who are putting the entries in the lessons would be able to d= ownload the audio for the entry from said repository.

Obviously this means that the audio must be done first, and so f= ar the only audio I am aware of is that which I have recorded myself, with = one exception, which unfortunately was not used for reasons that do not nee= d to be mentioned.

Speaking of which, I know that at least 3 people offered to record audi= o, what is the status of their recordings?

In any case, I am wonderi= ng if anyone has a suggestion for such a repository. Something free and eas= ily accessible would be best. I know there is a site which is used for spok= en audio, the name of which currently escapes me, but I am discouraged from= using it as the site's purpose, IIRC, is for conversational spoken Loj= ban, and the audio for the Smart.fm lessons is merely gismu and the occasio= nal {lo}, {se}, {te}, {ve}, and {xe}.

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mu'o mi'e .aionys.

.i.a'o.e'e ko klama le= bende pe denpa bu





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mu'o mi'e .aion= ys.

.i.a'o.e'e ko klama le bende pe denpa bu

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