Received: from mail-bw0-f221.google.com ([209.85.218.221]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1NfaAa-0003M0-I0 for lojban-beginners@lojban.org; Thu, 11 Feb 2010 06:37:31 -0800 Received: by bwz21 with SMTP id 21so1115881bwz.4 for ; Thu, 11 Feb 2010 06:37:22 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=0h4bzdeKbKPhGQE4VGVyC5CJw2Rmus8FY3MblTRLhz4=; b=AMXYcKkAmdDtyjF/iw3fOQkFJm/nAXjllN382y7Xj4vOT9HGnIPLjhaQJkoWrpvlYu eqS4b9T3DDUmUVn9AypswCq/VQUnkx6LeEPDKY6UEXoQ891tBtR26coK0+djp41lcL/v yjw1Tvsxx6ooTpIn8PqZfAacY1Q9xqvoA06N4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=ReQZ79dzPxG6Jc9sxrA87dp069b8LhfvXej+eMP6LRhMHk68UWQ/zjs6IzrOripoRV WHz2EOE5cQazp2fhySJQGoae5GzqD5nigYTE1liSMon8I7X1HFY+r4RBUn3OOY4VA+XU GxOOr7Ti28ucAf5Z+TXwhWouqxn1qqDZcvIOc= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.102.17.15 with SMTP id 15mr1343890muq.133.1265899041566; Thu, 11 Feb 2010 06:37:21 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <5715b9301002110606q61542baaw7e0da6c638d5a461@mail.gmail.com> References: <1f1080831002101527h41ecc51dr31eb898ec73e744@mail.gmail.com> <4de8c3931002101635w148496f3ie2485233236ec702@mail.gmail.com> <1f1080831002101659j71c65da9s78dadc0514e9f3ae@mail.gmail.com> <4de8c3931002101808m7fc46902ke05080bec136aaae@mail.gmail.com> <8a20e9f71002110559h52533937kce275bf1b92972b8@mail.gmail.com> <5715b9301002110606q61542baaw7e0da6c638d5a461@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 11 Feb 2010 09:37:21 -0500 Message-ID: <8a20e9f71002110637v1f21d974sd9dcaf7def45a095@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: [lojban-beginners] Re: Starting stories From: Jameson Orndorff To: lojban-beginners@lojban.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 903 Lines: 23 Directly from the CLL: So far we have only considered tenses in isolated bridi. Lojban provides several ways for a tense to continue in effect over more than a single bridi. This property is known as ``stickiness'': the tense gets ``stuck'' and remains in effect until explicitly ``unstuck''. In the metaphor of the imaginary journey, the place and time set by a sticky tense may be thought of as a campsite or way-station: it provides a permanent origin with respect to which other tenses are understood. Later imaginary journeys start from that point rather than from the speaker. Also, from the ma'oste: ki KI tense default tense/modal: set/use tense default; establishes new open scope space/time/modal reference base So I meant modals. I could be wrong - the CLL *doesn't* supply examples of non-tense modals being stickied, at least in that section I linked. mi'e .kribacr. mu'o