Received: from mail-bw0-f219.google.com ([209.85.218.219]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Nie3i-000252-9c for lojban-beginners@lojban.org; Fri, 19 Feb 2010 17:23:07 -0800 Received: by bwz19 with SMTP id 19so548322bwz.26 for ; Fri, 19 Feb 2010 17:22:55 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=BtY4f4M9dGcuD9ow5ol5Hk9dZ2rW49yfGHXURHe+a70=; b=qmQKACRlzoHfNd+snWYQMNhHlJVpuWw8WxYYsbeSuOJeRPAJXM0HzPKk8RtVRJq6AD TKNj1qzK6vWZux389lHck2qBc187bGeOG7UpQwLa8RdeSrL+jeSnkFZHguzT1N0sLeaj 3P2kCbHL8lAEleSGajJ0IqbqJbvbtRqpVfleI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=voXCYdQuZhPEYHBu7YpA1taZVjh8XiX7VyFYDA+1mKEniMQvCwxbAty5Ed2EPNQReh ARKidHXC1TDU/XpJLJ2+sD97IFBOTl7JlKVJFdeOt5i/lQfy9eq8sxNk98h9uDW236I3 fsdj7vYGuDCEc+L6dPTmr3KqVISz0VodfYrcU= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.143.3 with SMTP id s3mr3212739bku.144.1266628975786; Fri, 19 Feb 2010 17:22:55 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <1f1080831002191639m14515b3fibe33935505caade@mail.gmail.com> References: <1f1080831002181721w425a462dpd6cdae84a97b4d0f@mail.gmail.com> <20100219014246.GY19917@digitalkingdom.org> <1f1080831002181825s174b3e2dicc8251571742e6dd@mail.gmail.com> <1f1080831002191639m14515b3fibe33935505caade@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 19 Feb 2010 22:22:55 -0300 Message-ID: <925d17561002191722w12222fe7l2ebd9cc4a93a8b66@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: [lojban-beginners] Re: Not needing terminators From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jorge_Llamb=EDas?= To: lojban-beginners@lojban.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 806 Lines: 17 On Fri, Feb 19, 2010 at 9:39 PM, Ian Johnson wrote: > To verify that I actually do get this, here's another sentence I wrote today: > mi nupre lonu lonu do spuda lo preti befi mi kei na'e ba nandu do kei do > The intention is "I promise you the question(s) I ask will not be > difficult for you to answer". (This is intentionally somewhat clunky > so I could make sure I knew what I was doing). I'm pretty sure it > actually does it right this time. "na'e ba" means "other than in the future", so it's not what you want there. You want either "na ba nandu" or "ba na'e nandu". With "na" you don't need the first "kei", as "na" will force the closing of the second "lo nu". If you go with "ba na'e nandu", I find "cu ba na'e nandu" more clear than using "kei". mu'o mi'e xorxes