From eyeonus@gmail.com Sun Mar 07 13:57:00 2010 Received: from mail-ww0-f53.google.com ([74.125.82.53]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1NoOSy-0007e0-Sl for lojban-list@lojban.org; Sun, 07 Mar 2010 13:56:59 -0800 Received: by wwi18 with SMTP id 18so3175697wwi.40 for ; Sun, 07 Mar 2010 13:56:46 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=IhnOwgLA6ztdI52SXoiQrMLUbThwPD3KtWHEx5D5KAI=; b=mZ5Kk/5Zh1J6UQrm6pJ/CK0BrYVeU6QX7HAAw6hw807Tr/qNYTa2dPNZLGuknC5o97 UfLS2C+COsQgYXi60THd1D7rVmq5vo1vAh1YlfPMDo+3K/Ph6sj3QDeL2ijaFZqCTyU+ 3qpjmCyxBYLb/+/NX7L/Ng5ysOUfHJ8NJiqQ0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=aJioy77zvvE0NoZeWn6126bifhxPZ6HOGvDLyuCK/HhZGvmLJB7bZa9RxXf/RsaFrc NEelgh5rRQo4+qd7QYEVEWERJkeFzHNMwpns+voVeil/yGR7QF4lX6HotM9W5VrZrwyR Rgm2bW83RgTyMNnD9Gdvve/CIPbuUpun+QkTE= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.216.90.201 with SMTP id e51mr1091641wef.59.1267999006233; Sun, 07 Mar 2010 13:56:46 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <20100307205027.GN19073@digitalkingdom.org> References: <4B93D14F.7090800@perpetuum-immobile.de> <4B93D3E5.7020002@perpetuum-immobile.de> <702226df1003070834y45826f8fj7e2e424319b93a7f@mail.gmail.com> <4B93D68D.5010902@perpetuum-immobile.de> <20100307174142.GI19073@digitalkingdom.org> <702226df1003071000r629f941bsf49ddaf5aec5a01d@mail.gmail.com> <702226df1003071025u5813cff0p3a7e68d293dc40cb@mail.gmail.com> <20100307183748.GK19073@digitalkingdom.org> <702226df1003071203h5180399bvc8df5374c8b128c@mail.gmail.com> <20100307205027.GN19073@digitalkingdom.org> Date: Sun, 7 Mar 2010 14:56:46 -0700 Message-ID: <702226df1003071356ia724ef3s3e213f480a3b6917@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: [lojban] Re: mass-uploading? From: Jonathan Jones To: lojban-list@lojban.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016e6d7e8725794bb04813d06f6 --0016e6d7e8725794bb04813d06f6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sounds good to me. On Sun, Mar 7, 2010 at 1:50 PM, Robin Lee Powell < rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org> wrote: > OK, but it sounded like you'd have to manually copy and paste > whatever I do, which is a horrible waste of effort. > > Since it's all just going to drive my script anyways, I think it > would be better if you just edit what I come up with directly, and > send it back. > > -Robin > > On Sun, Mar 07, 2010 at 01:03:35PM -0700, Jonathan Jones wrote: > > Honestly, I'd much rather edit the items BEFORE they are uploaded > > to Smart.fm, because that would be easier and much less time > > consuming. > > > > I doubt you've ever tried to edit an item on Smart.fm, so take my > > word for it that it is at least five times as difficult to edit an > > item after being uploaded than it is to double-check the items in > > a document beforehand- which as far as I'm concerned is the main > > reason for the Google doc. > > > > If you can give me the gismu sumti, and some time to double check > > the list so that we won't need to worry about editing the items > > after the upload, I can fix up the Google doc to be exactly what > > your script needs, with all the needed information and formatting. > > > > On 3/7/10, Robin Lee Powell wrote: > > > That would be my site, and those would be my scripts, and the sound > > > uploads via API are *still* broken: > > > http://developer.smart.fm/forum/read/67134 > > > > > > There's a workaround, though; give me a day or so and I'll have a > > > complete upload done with good-enough text, which y'all can then > > > edit to your heart's content (since I'm told people can be allowed > > > to edit each other's items now). > > > > > > Anybody who wants to edit the results should send me their smart.fm > > > userid. > > > > > > -Robin > > > > > > On Sun, Mar 07, 2010 at 11:25:43AM -0700, Jonathan Jones wrote: > > >> Okay, a little Google search and I found the following > > >> > > >> site:=EF=BF=BD[1] > http://teddyb.org/rlp/tiki-index.php?page=3DMass+Upload+To+Smart.FM, > > >> which has two Ruby scripts specifically for mass uploading items. > > >> > > >> On Sun, Mar 7, 2010 at 11:00 AM, Jonathan Jones <[2] > eyeonus@gmail.com> > > >> wrote: > > >> > > >> Okay, but what about uploading the items themselves? As far as = I > know > > >> they haven't even done that bit yet. > > >> > > >> On Sun, Mar 7, 2010 at 10:41 AM, Robin Lee Powell > > >> <[3]rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org> wrote: > > >> > > >> On Sun, Mar 07, 2010 at 05:38:37PM +0100, Timo Paulssen wrote= : > > >> > [4]smart.fm already offers an interface that a script can > access, > > >> the > > >> > website itself. With the right tools, it should be possible > to > > >> > mass-upload the valsi definitions as well as the sounds > without > > >> > the [5]smart.fm folks having to expose any other kind of AP= I > to > > >> us. > > >> I > > >> > dunno if rlp knows how to best do that, though. > > >> > > >> The sound uploads via API are broken: > > >> [6]http://developer.smart.fm/forum/read/67134 > > >> > > >> I suppose I could use the HTTP based upload instead of the > > >> multipart > > >> upload; just makes the script less useful to other people. > > >> > > >> -Robin > > >> > > >> -- > > >> They say: =EF=BF=BD"The first AIs will be built by the milita= ry as > > >> weapons." > > >> And I'm =EF=BF=BDthinking: =EF=BF=BD"Does it even occur to yo= u to try for > something > > >> other =EF=BF=BDthan =EF=BF=BDthe default =EF=BF=BDoutcome?" = =EF=BF=BDSee > > >> [7]http://shrunklink.com/cdiz > > >> [8]http://www.digitalkingdom.org/~rlpowell/ *** > > >> [9]http://www.lojban.org/ > > >> > > >> To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to > > >> [10]lojban-list-request@lojban.org > > >> with the subject unsubscribe, or go to > > >> [11]http://www.lojban.org/lsg2/, or if > > >> you're really stuck, send mail to [12]secretary@lojban.org fo= r > > >> help. > > >> > > >> -- > > >> mu'o mi'e .aionys. > > >> > > >> .i.a'o.e'e ko klama le bende pe denpa bu > > >> > > >> -- > > >> mu'o mi'e .aionys. > > >> > > >> .i.a'o.e'e ko klama le bende pe denpa bu > > >> > > >> References > > >> > > >> Visible links > > >> 1. > http://teddyb.org/rlp/tiki-index.php?page=3DMass+Upload+To+Smart.FM > > >> 2. mailto:eyeonus@gmail.com > > >> 3. mailto:rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org > > >> 4. http://smart.fm/ > > >> 5. http://smart.fm/ > > >> 6. http://developer.smart.fm/forum/read/67134 > > >> 7. http://shrunklink.com/cdiz > > >> 8. http://www.digitalkingdom.org/~rlpowell/ > > >> 9. http://www.lojban.org/ > > >> 10. mailto:lojban-list-request@lojban.org > > >> 11. http://www.lojban.org/lsg2/ > > >> 12. mailto:secretary@lojban.org > > > > > > -- > > > They say: "The first AIs will be built by the military as weapons." > > > And I'm thinking: "Does it even occur to you to try for something > > > other than the default outcome?" See http://shrunklink.com/cdiz > > > http://www.digitalkingdom.org/~rlpowell/ *** http://www.lojban.org/ > > > > > > > > > To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to > lojban-list-request@lojban.org > > > with the subject unsubscribe, or go to http://www.lojban.org/lsg2/, o= r > if > > > you're really stuck, send mail to secretary@lojban.org for help. > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > mu'o mi'e .aionys. > > > > .i.a'o.e'e ko klama le bende pe denpa bu > > > > > > To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to > lojban-list-request@lojban.org > > with the subject unsubscribe, or go to http://www.lojban.org/lsg2/, or > if > > you're really stuck, send mail to secretary@lojban.org for help. > > > > -- > They say: "The first AIs will be built by the military as weapons." > And I'm thinking: "Does it even occur to you to try for something > other than the default outcome?" See http://shrunklink.com/cdiz > http://www.digitalkingdom.org/~rlpowell/ *** http://www.lojban.org/ > > > To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to lojban-list-request@lojban.or= g > with the subject unsubscribe, or go to http://www.lojban.org/lsg2/, or if > you're really stuck, send mail to secretary@lojban.org for help. > > --=20 mu'o mi'e .aionys. .i.a'o.e'e ko klama le bende pe denpa bu --0016e6d7e8725794bb04813d06f6 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sounds good to me.

On Sun, Mar 7, 2010 at 1:50 PM, Robin Lee Powell= <rlpow= ell@digitalkingdom.org> wrote:
OK, but it sounded like you'= d have to manually copy and paste
whatever I do, which is a horrible was= te of effort.

Since it's all just going to drive my script anyways, I think itwould be better if you just edit what I come up with directly, and
send= it back.

-Robin

On Sun, Mar 07, 2010 at 01:03:35PM -0700, Jonathan Jo= nes wrote:
> Honestly, I'd much rather edit the items BEFORE they= are uploaded
> to Smart.fm, because that would be easier and much le= ss time
> consuming.
>
> I doubt you've ever tried to edit an it= em on Smart.fm, so take my
> word for it that it is at least five tim= es as difficult to edit an
> item after being uploaded than it is to = double-check the items in
> a document beforehand- which as far as I'm concerned is the main> reason for the Google doc.
>
> If you can give me the gi= smu sumti, and some time to double check
> the list so that we won= 9;t need to worry about editing the items
> after the upload, I can fix up the Google doc to be exactly what
&g= t; your script needs, with all the needed information and formatting.
&g= t;
> On 3/7/10, Robin Lee Powell <rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org> wrote:
> > That would be my site, and those would be my scripts, and the sou= nd
> > uploads via API are *still* broken:
> > http://devel= oper.smart.fm/forum/read/67134
> >
> > There's a workaround, though; give me a day or s= o and I'll have a
> > complete upload done with good-enough te= xt, which y'all can then
> > edit to your heart's content = (since I'm told people can be allowed
> > to edit each other's items now).
> >
> > An= ybody who wants to edit the results should send me their smart.fm
> > userid.
> >=
> > -Robin
> >
> > On Sun, Mar 07, 2010 at 11:25:43= AM -0700, Jonathan Jones wrote:
> >> =C2=A0 =C2=A0Okay, a littl= e Google search and I found the following
> >>
> >>= site:=EF=BF=BD[1]http://teddyb.org/rlp/tiki-index.p= hp?page=3DMass+Upload+To+Smart.FM,
> >> =C2=A0 =C2=A0which has two Ruby scripts specifically for mass= uploading items.
> >>
> >> =C2=A0 =C2=A0On Sun, Ma= r 7, 2010 at 11:00 AM, Jonathan Jones <[2]eyeonus@gmail.com>
> >> =C2=A0 =C2=A0wrote:
> >>
> >> =C2=A0 = =C2=A0 =C2=A0Okay, but what about uploading the items themselves? As far as= I know
> >> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0they haven't even done tha= t bit yet.
> >>
> >> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0On Sun, Ma= r 7, 2010 at 10:41 AM, Robin Lee Powell
> >> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0<[3]rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org> wrote:
> >>> >> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0On Sun, Mar 07, 2010 at 05:38:37P= M +0100, Timo Paulssen wrote:
> >> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0> [4]smart.fm already offers an interface that a script= can access,
> >> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0the
> >&g= t; =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0> website itself. With the right tools, it= should be possible to
> >> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0> mass-upload the valsi definit= ions as well as the sounds without
> >> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 = =C2=A0> the [5]smart.fm folks having to expose any other kind of API to
> >> us.
> >> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0I
> >= ;> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0> dunno if rlp knows how to best do tha= t, though.
> >>
> >> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0The= sound uploads via API are broken:
> >> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 = =C2=A0[6]http://developer.smart.fm/forum/read/67134
> >>
> >> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0I suppose I could= use the HTTP based upload instead of the
> >> multipart
>= ; >> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0upload; just makes the script less us= eful to other people.
> >>
> >> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0-Robin
> >>
> &g= t;> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0--
> >> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 = =C2=A0They say: =EF=BF=BD"The first AIs will be built by the military = as
> >> weapons."
> >> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 = =C2=A0And I'm =EF=BF=BDthinking: =EF=BF=BD"Does it even occur to y= ou to try for something
> >> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0other =EF=BF=BDthan =EF=BF=BDthe d= efault =EF=BF=BDoutcome?" =EF=BF=BDSee
> >> [7]http://shrunklink.com/cdiz
> >> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0[8]http://www.digitalkingdom.org/= ~rlpowell/ ***
> >> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0[9]http://www.lojban.org/
> >>
> &= gt;> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0To unsubscribe from this list, send mail= to
> >> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0[10]lojban-list-request@lojban.org
> >> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0with the subject unsubscribe, or g= o to
> >> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0[11]http://www.lojban.org/lsg2/, or if<= br>> >> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0you're really stuck, send m= ail to [12]secretary@lojban.org= for
> >> help.
> >>
> >> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0-= -
> >> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0mu'o mi'e .aionys.
> &= gt;>
> >> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0.i.a'o.e'e ko klama le= bende pe denpa bu
> >>
> >> =C2=A0 =C2=A0--
> >> =C2=A0 =C2=A0mu'o mi'e .aionys.
> >>
&= gt; >> =C2=A0 =C2=A0.i.a'o.e'e ko klama le bende pe denpa bu<= br>> >>
> >> References
> >>
> >&= gt; =C2=A0 =C2=A0Visible links
> >> =C2=A0 =C2=A01. http://teddyb.org/rlp/= tiki-index.php?page=3DMass+Upload+To+Smart.FM
> >> =C2=A0 = =C2=A02. mailto:eyeonus@gmail.com<= br> > >> =C2=A0 =C2=A03. mailto:rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org
> >> =C2=A0 =C2=A04. <= a href=3D"http://smart.fm/" target=3D"_blank">http://smart.fm/
> = >> =C2=A0 =C2=A05. htt= p://smart.fm/
> >> =C2=A0 =C2=A06. http://developer.smart.fm/forum/read/67134<= br>> >> =C2=A0 =C2=A07. http://shrunklink.com/cdiz
> >> =C2=A0 =C2=A08. http://www.digitalkingdom.org/~rlpowell/
&= gt; >> =C2=A0 =C2=A09. http://www.lojban.org/
> >> =C2=A0 10. mailto:lojban-list-request@lojban.org
> >> =C2=A0 11. http://www.lojban.org/= lsg2/
> >> =C2=A0 12. mailto:sec= retary@lojban.org
> >
> > --
> > They say: = =C2=A0"The first AIs will be built by the military as weapons."> > And I'm =C2=A0thinking: =C2=A0"Does it even occur to y= ou to try for something
> > other =C2=A0than =C2=A0the default =C2=A0outcome?" =C2=A0See= http://shrunklink= .com/cdiz
> > http://www.digitalkingdom.org/~rlpowell/ *** http://www.lojban.org/
> >
> >
> > To unsubscribe from this list, send mai= l to lojban-list-request@= lojban.org
> > with the subject unsubscribe, or go to http://www.lojban.org/ls= g2/, or if
> > you're really stuck, send mail to secretary@lojban.org for help.
> >
> >>
>
> --
> mu'o mi'e .aionys.
>
>= ; .i.a'o.e'e ko klama le bende pe denpa bu
>
>
> To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to lojban-list-request@lojban.org<= br>> with the subject unsubscribe, or go to http://www.lojban.org/lsg2/, or if
> you're really stuck, send mail to secretary@lojban.org for help.
>

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other =C2=A0than =C2=A0the default =C2=A0outcome?" =C2=A0See http://shrunklink.com/cdi= z
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