From rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org Sun Mar 07 17:56:06 2010 Received: from rlpowell by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1NoSCU-0001Cq-0g for lojban-list@lojban.org; Sun, 07 Mar 2010 17:56:06 -0800 Date: Sun, 7 Mar 2010 17:56:06 -0800 From: Robin Lee Powell To: lojban-list@lojban.org Subject: Re: [lojban] Re: mass-uploading? Message-ID: <20100308015605.GQ19073@digitalkingdom.org> Mail-Followup-To: lojban-list@lojban.org References: <702226df1003070834y45826f8fj7e2e424319b93a7f@mail.gmail.com> <4B93D68D.5010902@perpetuum-immobile.de> <20100307174142.GI19073@digitalkingdom.org> <702226df1003071000r629f941bsf49ddaf5aec5a01d@mail.gmail.com> <702226df1003071025u5813cff0p3a7e68d293dc40cb@mail.gmail.com> <20100307183748.GK19073@digitalkingdom.org> <702226df1003071203h5180399bvc8df5374c8b128c@mail.gmail.com> <20100307205027.GN19073@digitalkingdom.org> <702226df1003071356ia724ef3s3e213f480a3b6917@mail.gmail.com> <20100308015232.GP19073@digitalkingdom.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <20100308015232.GP19073@digitalkingdom.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) Erm. Sorry, sorting it means that you have no easy way to figure out which stuff I added. My bad. http://teddyb.org/~rlpowell/public_media/simplified_gismu.tsv I'll re-sort it when I upload. This used the google doc as a starting point and filled in anything that was blank. -Robin On Sun, Mar 07, 2010 at 05:52:32PM -0800, Robin Lee Powell wrote: > http://teddyb.org/~rlpowell/public_media/simplified_gismu_sorted.tsv > > That's sorted by frequency of usage, so you don't spend a bunch of > time learning random crap. > > Now, what about the cmavo? > > -Robin > > On Sun, Mar 07, 2010 at 02:56:46PM -0700, Jonathan Jones wrote: > > Sounds good to me. > > > > On Sun, Mar 7, 2010 at 1:50 PM, Robin Lee Powell > > <[1]rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org> wrote: > > > > OK, but it sounded like you'd have to manually copy and paste > > whatever I do, which is a horrible waste of effort. > > > > Since it's all just going to drive my script anyways, I think it > > would be better if you just edit what I come up with directly, and > > send it back. > > -Robin > > On Sun, Mar 07, 2010 at 01:03:35PM -0700, Jonathan Jones wrote: > > > Honestly, I'd much rather edit the items BEFORE they are uploaded > > > to Smart.fm, because that would be easier and much less time > > > consuming. > > > > > > I doubt you've ever tried to edit an item on Smart.fm, so take my > > > word for it that it is at least five times as difficult to edit an > > > item after being uploaded than it is to double-check the items in > > > a document beforehand- which as far as I'm concerned is the main > > > reason for the Google doc. > > > > > > If you can give me the gismu sumti, and some time to double check > > > the list so that we won't need to worry about editing the items > > > after the upload, I can fix up the Google doc to be exactly what > > > your script needs, with all the needed information and formatting. > > > > > > On 3/7/10, Robin Lee Powell <[2]rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org> wrote: > > > > That would be my site, and those would be my scripts, and the sound > > > > uploads via API are *still* broken: > > > > [3]http://developer.smart.fm/forum/read/67134 > > > > > > > > There's a workaround, though; give me a day or so and I'll have a > > > > complete upload done with good-enough text, which y'all can then > > > > edit to your heart's content (since I'm told people can be allowed > > > > to edit each other's items now). > > > > > > > > Anybody who wants to edit the results should send me their > > [4]smart.fm > > > > userid. > > > > > > > > -Robin > > > > > > > > On Sun, Mar 07, 2010 at 11:25:43AM -0700, Jonathan Jones wrote: > > > >>    Okay, a little Google search and I found the following > > > >> > > > >> > > site:�[1][5]http://teddyb.org/rlp/tiki-index.php?page=Mass+Upload+To+Smart.FM, > > > >>    which has two Ruby scripts specifically for mass uploading > > items. > > > >> > > > >>    On Sun, Mar 7, 2010 at 11:00 AM, Jonathan Jones > > <[2][6]eyeonus@gmail.com> > > > >>    wrote: > > > >> > > > >>      Okay, but what about uploading the items themselves? As far as > > I know > > > >>      they haven't even done that bit yet. > > > >> > > > >>      On Sun, Mar 7, 2010 at 10:41 AM, Robin Lee Powell > > > >>      <[3][7]rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org> wrote: > > > >> > > > >>        On Sun, Mar 07, 2010 at 05:38:37PM +0100, Timo Paulssen > > wrote: > > > >>        > [4][8]smart.fm already offers an interface that a script > > can access, > > > >>        the > > > >>        > website itself. With the right tools, it should be > > possible to > > > >>        > mass-upload the valsi definitions as well as the sounds > > without > > > >>        > the [5][9]smart.fm folks having to expose any other kind > > of API to > > > >> us. > > > >>        I > > > >>        > dunno if rlp knows how to best do that, though. > > > >> > > > >>        The sound uploads via API are broken: > > > >>        [6][10]http://developer.smart.fm/forum/read/67134 > > > >> > > > >>        I suppose I could use the HTTP based upload instead of the > > > >> multipart > > > >>        upload; just makes the script less useful to other people. > > > >> > > > >>        -Robin > > > >> > > > >>        -- > > > >>        They say: �"The first AIs will be built by the military as > > > >> weapons." > > > >>        And I'm �thinking: �"Does it even occur to you to try for > > something > > > >>        other �than �the default �outcome?" �See > > > >> [7][11]http://shrunklink.com/cdiz > > > >>        [8][12]http://www.digitalkingdom.org/~rlpowell/ *** > > > >>        [9][13]http://www.lojban.org/ > > > >> > > > >>        To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to > > > >>        [10][14]lojban-list-request@lojban.org > > > >>        with the subject unsubscribe, or go to > > > >>        [11][15]http://www.lojban.org/lsg2/, or if > > > >>        you're really stuck, send mail to > > [12][16]secretary@lojban.org for > > > >> help. > > > >> > > > >>      -- > > > >>      mu'o mi'e .aionys. > > > >> > > > >>      .i.a'o.e'e ko klama le bende pe denpa bu > > > >> > > > >>    -- > > > >>    mu'o mi'e .aionys. > > > >> > > > >>    .i.a'o.e'e ko klama le bende pe denpa bu > > > >> > > > >> References > > > >> > > > >>    Visible links > > > >>    1. > > [17]http://teddyb.org/rlp/tiki-index.php?page=Mass+Upload+To+Smart.FM > > > >>    2. mailto:[18]eyeonus@gmail.com > > > >>    3. mailto:[19]rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org > > > >>    4. [20]http://smart.fm/ > > > >>    5. [21]http://smart.fm/ > > > >>    6. [22]http://developer.smart.fm/forum/read/67134 > > > >>    7. [23]http://shrunklink.com/cdiz > > > >>    8. [24]http://www.digitalkingdom.org/~rlpowell/ > > > >>    9. [25]http://www.lojban.org/ > > > >>   10. mailto:[26]lojban-list-request@lojban.org > > > >>   11. [27]http://www.lojban.org/lsg2/ > > > >>   12. mailto:[28]secretary@lojban.org > > > > > > > > -- > > > > They say:  "The first AIs will be built by the military as weapons." > > > > And I'm  thinking:  "Does it even occur to you to try for something > > > > other  than  the default  outcome?"  See > > [29]http://shrunklink.com/cdiz > > > > [30]http://www.digitalkingdom.org/~rlpowell/ *** > > [31]http://www.lojban.org/ > > > > > > > > > > > > To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to > > [32]lojban-list-request@lojban.org > > > > with the subject unsubscribe, or go to > > [33]http://www.lojban.org/lsg2/, or if > > > > you're really stuck, send mail to [34]secretary@lojban.org for help. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > mu'o mi'e .aionys. > > > > > > .i.a'o.e'e ko klama le bende pe denpa bu > > > > > > > > > To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to > > [35]lojban-list-request@lojban.org > > > with the subject unsubscribe, or go to > > [36]http://www.lojban.org/lsg2/, or if > > > you're really stuck, send mail to [37]secretary@lojban.org for help. > > > > > > > -- > > They say:  "The first AIs will be built by the military as weapons." > > And I'm  thinking:  "Does it even occur to you to try for something > > other  than  the default  outcome?"  See [38]http://shrunklink.com/cdiz > > [39]http://www.digitalkingdom.org/~rlpowell/ *** > > [40]http://www.lojban.org/ > > > > To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to > > [41]lojban-list-request@lojban.org > > with the subject unsubscribe, or go to [42]http://www.lojban.org/lsg2/, > > or if > > you're really stuck, send mail to [43]secretary@lojban.org for help. > > > > -- > > mu'o mi'e .aionys. > > > > .i.a'o.e'e ko klama le bende pe denpa bu > > > > References > > > > Visible links > > 1. mailto:rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org > > 2. mailto:rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org > > 3. http://developer.smart.fm/forum/read/67134 > > 4. http://smart.fm/ > > 5. http://teddyb.org/rlp/tiki-index.php?page=Mass+Upload+To+Smart.FM > > 6. mailto:eyeonus@gmail.com > > 7. mailto:rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org > > 8. http://smart.fm/ > > 9. http://smart.fm/ > > 10. http://developer.smart.fm/forum/read/67134 > > 11. http://shrunklink.com/cdiz > > 12. http://www.digitalkingdom.org/~rlpowell/ > > 13. http://www.lojban.org/ > > 14. mailto:lojban-list-request@lojban.org > > 15. http://www.lojban.org/lsg2/ > > 16. mailto:secretary@lojban.org > > 17. http://teddyb.org/rlp/tiki-index.php?page=Mass+Upload+To+Smart.FM > > 18. mailto:eyeonus@gmail.com > > 19. mailto:rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org > > 20. http://smart.fm/ > > 21. http://smart.fm/ > > 22. http://developer.smart.fm/forum/read/67134 > > 23. http://shrunklink.com/cdiz > > 24. http://www.digitalkingdom.org/~rlpowell/ > > 25. http://www.lojban.org/ > > 26. mailto:lojban-list-request@lojban.org > > 27. http://www.lojban.org/lsg2/ > > 28. mailto:secretary@lojban.org > > 29. http://shrunklink.com/cdiz > > 30. http://www.digitalkingdom.org/~rlpowell/ > > 31. http://www.lojban.org/ > > 32. mailto:lojban-list-request@lojban.org > > 33. http://www.lojban.org/lsg2/ > > 34. mailto:secretary@lojban.org > > 35. mailto:lojban-list-request@lojban.org > > 36. http://www.lojban.org/lsg2/ > > 37. mailto:secretary@lojban.org > > 38. http://shrunklink.com/cdiz > > 39. http://www.digitalkingdom.org/~rlpowell/ > > 40. http://www.lojban.org/ > > 41. mailto:lojban-list-request@lojban.org > > 42. http://www.lojban.org/lsg2/ > > 43. mailto:secretary@lojban.org > > -- > They say: "The first AIs will be built by the military as weapons." > And I'm thinking: "Does it even occur to you to try for something > other than the default outcome?" See http://shrunklink.com/cdiz > http://www.digitalkingdom.org/~rlpowell/ *** http://www.lojban.org/ > > > To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to lojban-list-request@lojban.org > with the subject unsubscribe, or go to http://www.lojban.org/lsg2/, or if > you're really stuck, send mail to secretary@lojban.org for help. > -- They say: "The first AIs will be built by the military as weapons." And I'm thinking: "Does it even occur to you to try for something other than the default outcome?" See http://shrunklink.com/cdiz http://www.digitalkingdom.org/~rlpowell/ *** http://www.lojban.org/