From get.oren@gmail.com Tue Mar 02 17:25:32 2010 Received: from mail-pw0-f53.google.com ([209.85.160.53]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1NmdL4-00040D-JN for lojban-list@lojban.org; Tue, 02 Mar 2010 17:25:32 -0800 Received: by pwi2 with SMTP id 2so498888pwi.40 for ; Tue, 02 Mar 2010 17:25:20 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :from:date:message-id:subject:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=Re7wiXgwBzEcm9VLup7LHCpCNHoiTcLaEjFCk9oUG+U=; b=x2O6f9VN2YghiJdMqpXq5KRaQFIc5/s4KJJeo5/tSOWpGmVgj5lFS2xZ5JPwgey2gk Kf9KRGDaX+117/7WoLptg/gmDicSTSWyfjHa2muPVvM4DjhZdlcWEEIUTfeERhTjxSL6 S3cp1sSpYsNT7nrMb5zz9iTt739FGtuh8CM/Y= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=O82tZJa8TlPeRccXOxuLorJoP6cjc+JY5Mez09ANHbrxCHgSkAF1k9ulsMBDfe3RuX tNUOZWSjvuRFR+uV//so5SNBIxAQnxkOLWae0mjRmj2UcQJ/rpXnxY7hoV8zfPU2Ojie 3ptnUjMeczlUc/8ZlqWl8UQBRCN3f+8V/54JU= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.143.85.9 with SMTP id n9mr813930wfl.22.1267579520188; Tue, 02 Mar 2010 17:25:20 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <27513e551002212150u42e9dbcbv8115a83795dbb393@mail.gmail.com> <20100222160244.GS31805@digitalkingdom.org> <702226df1002250800xdc52e09g3e17856b5d67f30f@mail.gmail.com> <702226df1003010648r3b2376a1w93d7a792af638da4@mail.gmail.com> <33739.83087.qm@web50405.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <20100302194118.GH1159@digitalkingdom.org> <702226df1003021251n1f442ec7nb9f5fb0bb8a13c23@mail.gmail.com> <20100302214224.GI1159@digitalkingdom.org> From: Oren Date: Wed, 3 Mar 2010 09:25:00 +0800 Message-ID: <27513e551003021725t1bf6fc77la5836d434585cf92@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: [lojban] Re: Lindar is very nice to volunteer! (was Re: Re: smart.fm and fooling text-to-speech) To: lojban-list@lojban.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, Mar 3, 2010 at 07:09, Geoffrey Beresford wr= ote: > I know this is a bit further down the line, but right now the smartfm wor= ds > are learned in alphabetical order. What about making the order sync up wi= th > the order they're introduced in Lojban For Beginners (or whatever > lojban-learning text people vote for)? Can do. http://www.tinyurl.com/smartfmgismu has wiki editing privileges, so it's just a matter of adding a column to the items list for tutorial order. I recall one of the gismu lists already has the order of some previous loglan beginner's course, but can't find it. Otherwise, what online tutorials are the best (i.e. up to date regarding xorlo) ? Nick Nicholas, Robin Turner, "Lojban For Beginners =97 velcli befi la lojban. bei loi co'a cilre" http://www.tlg.uci.edu/~opoudjis/lojbanbrochure/lessons/book1.html John Cowan, Nick Nicholas, "What is Lojban? .i la lojban. mo" http://www.lojban.org/tiki/What+is+Lojban%3F,+The+Book The Logical Language Group, "The Lojban Reference Grammar" http://www.lojban.org/tiki/The+Lojban+Reference+Grammar ...missing any? I suppose the next thing to do would be to extract the order of new words in one/more of these sources. How's that google wave tutorial coming?