From eyeonus@gmail.com Wed Mar 10 07:29:55 2010 Received: from mail-ww0-f53.google.com ([74.125.82.53]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1NpNqy-0002xQ-6z for lojban-list@lojban.org; Wed, 10 Mar 2010 07:29:54 -0800 Received: by wwi17 with SMTP id 17so819839wwi.40 for ; Wed, 10 Mar 2010 07:29:37 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=rwUVqzYdaWLkHHxuHp3ptM58tDK7pN9gu6TCIcQouEE=; b=Aq5KaHK5e2D0yNT28gltrbtzfPeDOxPoUTPwhSP/Jnvl8scvJsrbjKiV2JLFtXA30u MoORTiYSVkq4vsp/uaqPS/T3cHMAXEtwnwtEwz8UoKkYm6G2mGS4z3iRnFGGLeOJ7YH3 yyjDfCSiM9pJAB1IUODYuTOdv6BmHM1CxYSig= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=d1xTnSzIAPcXkeV+bpyIrvzlSk79oI+r3E2KWyDODoIHOCZCX/QihJYtrfl2FT1Ytx RCScrPUlAA/IJfSv3cFw5esZOzAs6TyGfBQ/WEvONEILQeHXO9RWro5rOra6Dsd/maa6 68J+IdtDPIc7p5BPMNqigFkbQ42Ss9RUQ65W0= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.216.88.148 with SMTP id a20mr665911wef.124.1268234977167; Wed, 10 Mar 2010 07:29:37 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <27513e551003100654y41484b9fhf4d6f051a14a354@mail.gmail.com> References: <702226df1003070834y45826f8fj7e2e424319b93a7f@mail.gmail.com> <20100307183748.GK19073@digitalkingdom.org> <702226df1003071203h5180399bvc8df5374c8b128c@mail.gmail.com> <20100307205027.GN19073@digitalkingdom.org> <702226df1003071356ia724ef3s3e213f480a3b6917@mail.gmail.com> <20100308015232.GP19073@digitalkingdom.org> <20100308015605.GQ19073@digitalkingdom.org> <702226df1003100643g39563acagba9f4b9c25d6a10b@mail.gmail.com> <702226df1003100644j3a0a1c47xc604033419c95368@mail.gmail.com> <27513e551003100654y41484b9fhf4d6f051a14a354@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2010 08:29:36 -0700 Message-ID: <702226df1003100729v3d401a6dg3c7dd34d5424ff8d@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: [lojban] Re: mass-uploading? From: Jonathan Jones To: lojban-list@lojban.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016e6d784214e5b7b048173f718 --0016e6d784214e5b7b048173f718 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Progress update: I am 64% finished with looking over the list. On Wed, Mar 10, 2010 at 7:54 AM, Oren wrote: > well, it was news to me too, thanks for sending it. > > crap, this was supposed to just go to you. > > On Wed, Mar 10, 2010 at 22:44, Jonathan Jones wrote: > >> Crap, that was supposed to go directly to Robin. >> >> >> On Wed, Mar 10, 2010 at 7:43 AM, Jonathan Jones wrote= : >> >>> I just wanted to make sure that you were aware of something, as I'm not >>> certain that you are. >>> >>> There are actually three lessons on Smart.fm for the items: >>> >>> The all-inclusive lesson, which is to contain all the items: >>> http://smart.fm/goals/179543 >>> The place-structure lesson, which to >>> contain the bare gismu: http://smart.fm/goals/179606 >>> And the sumti lesson, which is to contai= n >>> the gismu sumti: http://smart.fm/goals/179607 >>> >>> So, when you do the uploading, I ask that >>> you please upload the appropriate items to the other two lessons as wel= l. >>> >>> Also, do you want the third (part of speech) and fourth (.mp3 filename) >>> columns when I send you the list back? I've used the conventions of cal= ling >>> gismu "Phrase" (E) and gismu sumti "Noun" (N) in order to make it easie= r to >>> separate them from each other for inclusion into the other lesson they >>> respectively go into. If not, I can easily delete those columns from th= e >>> document. >>> >>> >>> On Sun, Mar 7, 2010 at 6:56 PM, Robin Lee Powell < >>> rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org> wrote: >>> >>>> Erm. Sorry, sorting it means that you have no easy way to figure >>>> out which stuff I added. My bad. >>>> >>>> http://teddyb.org/~rlpowell/public_media/simplified_gismu.tsv >>>> >>>> I'll re-sort it when I upload. >>>> >>>> This used the google doc as a starting point and filled in anything >>>> that was blank. >>>> >>>> -Robin >>>> >>>> On Sun, Mar 07, 2010 at 05:52:32PM -0800, Robin Lee Powell wrote: >>>> > http://teddyb.org/~rlpowell/public_media/simplified_gismu_sorted.tsv >>>> > >>>> > That's sorted by frequency of usage, so you don't spend a bunch of >>>> > time learning random crap. >>>> > >>>> > Now, what about the cmavo? >>>> > >>>> > -Robin >>>> > >>>> > On Sun, Mar 07, 2010 at 02:56:46PM -0700, Jonathan Jones wrote: >>>> > > Sounds good to me. >>>> > > >>>> > > On Sun, Mar 7, 2010 at 1:50 PM, Robin Lee Powell >>>> > > <[1]rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org> wrote: >>>> > > >>>> > > OK, but it sounded like you'd have to manually copy and paste >>>> > > whatever I do, which is a horrible waste of effort. >>>> > > >>>> > > Since it's all just going to drive my script anyways, I think >>>> it >>>> > > would be better if you just edit what I come up with directly= , >>>> and >>>> > > send it back. >>>> > > -Robin >>>> > > On Sun, Mar 07, 2010 at 01:03:35PM -0700, Jonathan Jones wrot= e: >>>> > > > Honestly, I'd much rather edit the items BEFORE they are >>>> uploaded >>>> > > > to Smart.fm, because that would be easier and much less tim= e >>>> > > > consuming. >>>> > > > >>>> > > > I doubt you've ever tried to edit an item on Smart.fm, so >>>> take my >>>> > > > word for it that it is at least five times as difficult to >>>> edit an >>>> > > > item after being uploaded than it is to double-check the >>>> items in >>>> > > > a document beforehand- which as far as I'm concerned is the >>>> main >>>> > > > reason for the Google doc. >>>> > > > >>>> > > > If you can give me the gismu sumti, and some time to double >>>> check >>>> > > > the list so that we won't need to worry about editing the >>>> items >>>> > > > after the upload, I can fix up the Google doc to be exactly >>>> what >>>> > > > your script needs, with all the needed information and >>>> formatting. >>>> > > > >>>> > > > On 3/7/10, Robin Lee Powell <[2]rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org= > >>>> wrote: >>>> > > > > That would be my site, and those would be my scripts, and >>>> the sound >>>> > > > > uploads via API are *still* broken: >>>> > > > > [3]http://developer.smart.fm/forum/read/67134 >>>> > > > > >>>> > > > > There's a workaround, though; give me a day or so and I'l= l >>>> have a >>>> > > > > complete upload done with good-enough text, which y'all c= an >>>> then >>>> > > > > edit to your heart's content (since I'm told people can b= e >>>> allowed >>>> > > > > to edit each other's items now). >>>> > > > > >>>> > > > > Anybody who wants to edit the results should send me thei= r >>>> > > [4]smart.fm >>>> > > > > userid. >>>> > > > > >>>> > > > > -Robin >>>> > > > > >>>> > > > > On Sun, Mar 07, 2010 at 11:25:43AM -0700, Jonathan Jones >>>> wrote: >>>> > > > >> Okay, a little Google search and I found the followin= g >>>> > > > >> >>>> > > > >> >>>> > > site:=EF=BF=BD[1][5] >>>> http://teddyb.org/rlp/tiki-index.php?page=3DMass+Upload+To+Smart.FM, >>>> > > > >> which has two Ruby scripts specifically for mass >>>> uploading >>>> > > items. >>>> > > > >> >>>> > > > >> On Sun, Mar 7, 2010 at 11:00 AM, Jonathan Jones >>>> > > <[2][6]eyeonus@gmail.com> >>>> > > > >> wrote: >>>> > > > >> >>>> > > > >> Okay, but what about uploading the items themselves= ? >>>> As far as >>>> > > I know >>>> > > > >> they haven't even done that bit yet. >>>> > > > >> >>>> > > > >> On Sun, Mar 7, 2010 at 10:41 AM, Robin Lee Powell >>>> > > > >> <[3][7]rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org> wrote: >>>> > > > >> >>>> > > > >> On Sun, Mar 07, 2010 at 05:38:37PM +0100, Timo >>>> Paulssen >>>> > > wrote: >>>> > > > >> > [4][8]smart.fm already offers an interface that >>>> a script >>>> > > can access, >>>> > > > >> the >>>> > > > >> > website itself. With the right tools, it should >>>> be >>>> > > possible to >>>> > > > >> > mass-upload the valsi definitions as well as th= e >>>> sounds >>>> > > without >>>> > > > >> > the [5][9]smart.fm folks having to expose any >>>> other kind >>>> > > of API to >>>> > > > >> us. >>>> > > > >> I >>>> > > > >> > dunno if rlp knows how to best do that, though. >>>> > > > >> >>>> > > > >> The sound uploads via API are broken: >>>> > > > >> [6][10]http://developer.smart.fm/forum/read/67134 >>>> > > > >> >>>> > > > >> I suppose I could use the HTTP based upload inste= ad >>>> of the >>>> > > > >> multipart >>>> > > > >> upload; just makes the script less useful to othe= r >>>> people. >>>> > > > >> >>>> > > > >> -Robin >>>> > > > >> >>>> > > > >> -- >>>> > > > >> They say: =EF=BF=BD"The first AIs will be built b= y the >>>> military as >>>> > > > >> weapons." >>>> > > > >> And I'm =EF=BF=BDthinking: =EF=BF=BD"Does it even= occur to you to >>>> try for >>>> > > something >>>> > > > >> other =EF=BF=BDthan =EF=BF=BDthe default =EF=BF= =BDoutcome?" =EF=BF=BDSee >>>> > > > >> [7][11]http://shrunklink.com/cdiz >>>> > > > >> [8][12]http://www.digitalkingdom.org/~rlpowell/**= * >>>> > > > >> [9][13]http://www.lojban.org/ >>>> > > > >> >>>> > > > >> To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to >>>> > > > >> [10][14]lojban-list-request@lojban.org >>>> > > > >> with the subject unsubscribe, or go to >>>> > > > >> [11][15]http://www.lojban.org/lsg2/, or if >>>> > > > >> you're really stuck, send mail to >>>> > > [12][16]secretary@lojban.org for >>>> > > > >> help. >>>> > > > >> >>>> > > > >> -- >>>> > > > >> mu'o mi'e .aionys. >>>> > > > >> >>>> > > > >> .i.a'o.e'e ko klama le bende pe denpa bu >>>> > > > >> >>>> > > > >> -- >>>> > > > >> mu'o mi'e .aionys. >>>> > > > >> >>>> > > > >> .i.a'o.e'e ko klama le bende pe denpa bu >>>> > > > >> >>>> > > > >> References >>>> > > > >> >>>> > > > >> Visible links >>>> > > > >> 1. >>>> > > [17] >>>> http://teddyb.org/rlp/tiki-index.php?page=3DMass+Upload+To+Smart.FM >>>> > > > >> 2. mailto:[18]eyeonus@gmail.com >>>> > > > >> 3. mailto:[19]rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org >>>> > > > >> 4. [20]http://smart.fm/ >>>> > > > >> 5. [21]http://smart.fm/ >>>> > > > >> 6. [22]http://developer.smart.fm/forum/read/67134 >>>> > > > >> 7. [23]http://shrunklink.com/cdiz >>>> > > > >> 8. [24]http://www.digitalkingdom.org/~rlpowell/ >>>> > > > >> 9. [25]http://www.lojban.org/ >>>> > > > >> 10. mailto:[26]lojban-list-request@lojban.org >>>> > > > >> 11. [27]http://www.lojban.org/lsg2/ >>>> > > > >> 12. mailto:[28]secretary@lojban.org >>>> > > > > >>>> > > > > -- >>>> > > > > They say: "The first AIs will be built by the military a= s >>>> weapons." >>>> > > > > And I'm thinking: "Does it even occur to you to try for >>>> something >>>> > > > > other than the default outcome?" See >>>> > > [29]http://shrunklink.com/cdiz >>>> > > > > [30]http://www.digitalkingdom.org/~rlpowell/ *** >>>> > > [31]http://www.lojban.org/ >>>> > > > > >>>> > > > > >>>> > > > > To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to >>>> > > [32]lojban-list-request@lojban.org >>>> > > > > with the subject unsubscribe, or go to >>>> > > [33]http://www.lojban.org/lsg2/, or if >>>> > > > > you're really stuck, send mail to [34]secretary@lojban.or= gfor help. >>>> > > > > >>>> > > > > >>>> > > > >>>> > > > >>>> > > > -- >>>> > > > mu'o mi'e .aionys. >>>> > > > >>>> > > > .i.a'o.e'e ko klama le bende pe denpa bu >>>> > > > >>>> > > > >>>> > > > To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to >>>> > > [35]lojban-list-request@lojban.org >>>> > > > with the subject unsubscribe, or go to >>>> > > [36]http://www.lojban.org/lsg2/, or if >>>> > > > you're really stuck, send mail to [37]secretary@lojban.orgf= or help. >>>> > > > >>>> > > >>>> > > -- >>>> > > They say: "The first AIs will be built by the military as >>>> weapons." >>>> > > And I'm thinking: "Does it even occur to you to try for >>>> something >>>> > > other than the default outcome?" See [38] >>>> http://shrunklink.com/cdiz >>>> > > [39]http://www.digitalkingdom.org/~rlpowell/ *** >>>> > > [40]http://www.lojban.org/ >>>> > > >>>> > > To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to >>>> > > [41]lojban-list-request@lojban.org >>>> > > with the subject unsubscribe, or go to [42] >>>> http://www.lojban.org/lsg2/, >>>> > > or if >>>> > > you're really stuck, send mail to [43]secretary@lojban.org fo= r >>>> help. >>>> > > >>>> > > -- >>>> > > mu'o mi'e .aionys. >>>> > > >>>> > > .i.a'o.e'e ko klama le bende pe denpa bu >>>> > > >>>> > > References >>>> > > >>>> > > Visible links >>>> > > 1. mailto:rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org >>>> > > 2. mailto:rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org >>>> > > 3. http://developer.smart.fm/forum/read/67134 >>>> > > 4. http://smart.fm/ >>>> > > 5. >>>> http://teddyb.org/rlp/tiki-index.php?page=3DMass+Upload+To+Smart.FM >>>> > > 6. mailto:eyeonus@gmail.com >>>> > > 7. mailto:rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org >>>> > > 8. http://smart.fm/ >>>> > > 9. http://smart.fm/ >>>> > > 10. http://developer.smart.fm/forum/read/67134 >>>> > > 11. http://shrunklink.com/cdiz >>>> > > 12. http://www.digitalkingdom.org/~rlpowell/ >>>> > > 13. http://www.lojban.org/ >>>> > > 14. mailto:lojban-list-request@lojban.org >>>> > > 15. http://www.lojban.org/lsg2/ >>>> > > 16. mailto:secretary@lojban.org >>>> > > 17. >>>> http://teddyb.org/rlp/tiki-index.php?page=3DMass+Upload+To+Smart.FM >>>> > > 18. mailto:eyeonus@gmail.com >>>> > > 19. mailto:rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org >>>> > > 20. http://smart.fm/ >>>> > > 21. http://smart.fm/ >>>> > > 22. http://developer.smart.fm/forum/read/67134 >>>> > > 23. http://shrunklink.com/cdiz >>>> > > 24. http://www.digitalkingdom.org/~rlpowell/ >>>> > > 25. http://www.lojban.org/ >>>> > > 26. mailto:lojban-list-request@lojban.org >>>> > > 27. http://www.lojban.org/lsg2/ >>>> > > 28. mailto:secretary@lojban.org >>>> > > 29. http://shrunklink.com/cdiz >>>> > > 30. http://www.digitalkingdom.org/~rlpowell/ >>>> > > 31. http://www.lojban.org/ >>>> > > 32. mailto:lojban-list-request@lojban.org >>>> > > 33. http://www.lojban.org/lsg2/ >>>> > > 34. mailto:secretary@lojban.org >>>> > > 35. mailto:lojban-list-request@lojban.org >>>> > > 36. http://www.lojban.org/lsg2/ >>>> > > 37. mailto:secretary@lojban.org >>>> > > 38. http://shrunklink.com/cdiz >>>> > > 39. http://www.digitalkingdom.org/~rlpowell/ >>>> > > 40. http://www.lojban.org/ >>>> > > 41. mailto:lojban-list-request@lojban.org >>>> > > 42. http://www.lojban.org/lsg2/ >>>> > > 43. mailto:secretary@lojban.org >>>> > >>>> > -- >>>> > They say: "The first AIs will be built by the military as weapons." >>>> > And I'm thinking: "Does it even occur to you to try for something >>>> > other than the default outcome?" See http://shrunklink.com/cdiz >>>> > http://www.digitalkingdom.org/~rlpowell/ *** http://www.lojban.org/ >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to >>>> lojban-list-request@lojban.org >>>> > with the subject unsubscribe, or go to http://www.lojban.org/lsg2/, >>>> or if >>>> > you're really stuck, send mail to secretary@lojban.org for help. >>>> > >>>> >>>> -- >>>> They say: "The first AIs will be built by the military as weapons." >>>> And I'm thinking: "Does it even occur to you to try for something >>>> other than the default outcome?" See http://shrunklink.com/cdiz >>>> http://www.digitalkingdom.org/~rlpowell/ *** http://www.lojban.org/ >>>> >>>> >>>> To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to >>>> lojban-list-request@lojban.org >>>> with the subject unsubscribe, or go to http://www.lojban.org/lsg2/, or >>>> if >>>> you're really stuck, send mail to secretary@lojban.org for help. >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> mu'o mi'e .aionys. >>> >>> .i.a'o.e'e ko klama le bende pe denpa bu >>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> mu'o mi'e .aionys. >> >> .i.a'o.e'e ko klama le bende pe denpa bu >> >> > --=20 mu'o mi'e .aionys. .i.a'o.e'e ko klama le bende pe denpa bu --0016e6d784214e5b7b048173f718 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Progress update: I am 64% finished with looking over the list.

On Wed, Mar 10, 2010 at 7:54 AM, Oren <get.oren@gmail.com> wrote:
well, it was news to me to= o, thanks for sending it.

crap, this was supposed to jus= t go to you.

On We= d, Mar 10, 2010 at 22:44, Jonathan Jones <eyeonus@gmail.com>= wrote:
Crap, that was supposed to go directly to Ro= bin.


On Wed, Mar 10,= 2010 at 7:43 AM, Jonathan Jones <eyeonus@gmail.com> wrote:<= br>
I just wanted to make sure that you were awa= re of something, as I'm not certain that you are.

Th= ere are actually three lessons on Smart.fm for the items:

The all-inclusive lesson, which is to contain all the i= tems:=C2=A0http:= //smart.fm/goals/179543
The pla= ce-structure lesson, which to contain the bare gismu:=C2=A0http://smart.fm/goals/179606=
And the sumt= i lesson, which is to contain the gismu sumti:=C2=A0http://smart.fm/goals/179607

So, when you do the uploading, I ask that you please upload the app= ropriate items to the other two lessons as well.

Also, do you want the third (part of speech) and fourth (.mp3 filename) col= umns when I send you the list back? I've used the conventions of callin= g gismu "Phrase" (E) and gismu sumti "Noun" (N) in orde= r to make it easier to separate them from each other for inclusion into the= other lesson they respectively go into. If not, I can easily delete those = columns from the document.


On Sun, Mar 7, 2010 at 6:56 PM, Robin Lee Po= well <rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org> wrote:
Erm. =C2=A0Sorry, sorting it means that you have no easy way to figure
out which stuff I added. =C2=A0My bad.

http://teddyb.org/~rlpowell/public_media/simplified_gismu.= tsv

I'll re-sort it when I upload.

This used the google doc as a starting point and filled in anything
that was blank.

-Robin

On Sun, Mar 07, 2010 at 05:52:32PM -0800, Robin Lee Powell wrote:
> http://teddyb.org/~rlpowell/public_media/simpl= ified_gismu_sorted.tsv
>
> That's sorted by frequency of usage, so you don't spend a bunc= h of
> time learning random crap.
>
> Now, what about the cmavo?
>
> -Robin
>
> On Sun, Mar 07, 2010 at 02:56:46PM -0700, Jonathan Jones wrote:
> > =C2=A0 =C2=A0Sounds good to me.
> >
> > =C2=A0 =C2=A0On Sun, Mar 7, 2010 at 1:50 PM, Robin Lee Powell
> > =C2=A0 =C2=A0<[1]rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org> wrote:
> >
> > =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0OK, but it sounded like you'd have to man= ually copy and paste
> > =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0whatever I do, which is a horrible waste of e= ffort.
> >
> > =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Since it's all just going to drive my scr= ipt anyways, I think it
> > =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0would be better if you just edit what I come = up with directly, and
> > =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0send it back.
> > =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0-Robin
> > =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0On Sun, Mar 07, 2010 at 01:03:35PM -0700, Jon= athan Jones wrote:
> > =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0> Honestly, I'd much rather edit the i= tems BEFORE they are uploaded
> > =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0> to Smart.fm, because that would be easie= r and much less time
> > =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0> consuming.
> > =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0>
> > =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0> I doubt you've ever tried to edit an= item on Smart.fm, so take my
> > =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0> word for it that it is at least five tim= es as difficult to edit an
> > =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0> item after being uploaded than it is to = double-check the items in
> > =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0> a document beforehand- which as far as I= 'm concerned is the main
> > =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0> reason for the Google doc.
> > =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0>
> > =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0> If you can give me the gismu sumti, and = some time to double check
> > =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0> the list so that we won't need to wo= rry about editing the items
> > =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0> after the upload, I can fix up the Googl= e doc to be exactly what
> > =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0> your script needs, with all the needed i= nformation and formatting.
> > =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0>
> > =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0> On 3/7/10, Robin Lee Powell <[2]rlpowell@digita= lkingdom.org> wrote:
> > =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0> > That would be my site, and those wo= uld be my scripts, and the sound
> > =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0> > uploads via API are *still* broken:=
> > =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0> > [3]http://developer.smart.fm/forum/re= ad/67134
> > =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0> >
> > =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0> > There's a workaround, though; g= ive me a day or so and I'll have a
> > =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0> > complete upload done with good-enou= gh text, which y'all can then
> > =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0> > edit to your heart's content (s= ince I'm told people can be allowed
> > =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0> > to edit each other's items now)= .
> > =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0> >
> > =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0> > Anybody who wants to edit the resul= ts should send me their
> > =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0[4]smart.fm
> > =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0> > userid.
> > =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0> >
> > =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0> > -Robin
> > =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0> >
> > =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0> > On Sun, Mar 07, 2010 at 11:25:43AM = -0700, Jonathan Jones wrote:
> > =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0> >> =C2=A0 =C2=A0Okay, a little Goo= gle search and I found the following
> > =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0> >>
> > =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0> >>
> > =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0site:=EF=BF=BD[1][5]ht= tp://teddyb.org/rlp/tiki-index.php?page=3DMass+Upload+To+Smart.FM,
> > =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0> >> =C2=A0 =C2=A0which has two Ruby= scripts specifically for mass uploading
> > =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0items.
> > =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0> >>
> > =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0> >> =C2=A0 =C2=A0On Sun, Mar 7, 201= 0 at 11:00 AM, Jonathan Jones
> > =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0<[2][6]eyeonus@gmail.com>
> > =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0> >> =C2=A0 =C2=A0wrote:
> > =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0> >>
> > =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0> >> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Okay, but w= hat about uploading the items themselves? As far as
> > =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0I know
> > =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0> >> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0they haven&= #39;t even done that bit yet.
> > =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0> >>
> > =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0> >> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0On Sun, Mar= 7, 2010 at 10:41 AM, Robin Lee Powell
> > =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0> >> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0<[3][7]<= a href=3D"mailto:rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org" target=3D"_blank">rlpowell@di= gitalkingdom.org> wrote:
> > =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0> >>
> > =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0> >> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0On S= un, Mar 07, 2010 at 05:38:37PM +0100, Timo Paulssen
> > =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0wrote:
> > =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0> >> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0>= [4][8]smart.fm already o= ffers an interface that a script
> > =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0can access,
> > =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0> >> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0the<= br> > > =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0> >> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0>= website itself. With the right tools, it should be
> > =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0possible to
> > =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0> >> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0>= mass-upload the valsi definitions as well as the sounds
> > =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0without
> > =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0> >> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0>= the [5][9]smart.fm folks= having to expose any other kind
> > =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0of API to
> > =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0> >> us.
> > =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0> >> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0I > > =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0> >> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0>= dunno if rlp knows how to best do that, though.
> > =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0> >>
> > =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0> >> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0The = sound uploads via API are broken:
> > =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0> >> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0[6][= 10]http://developer.smart.fm/forum/read/67134
> > =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0> >>
> > =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0> >> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0I su= ppose I could use the HTTP based upload instead of the
> > =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0> >> multipart
> > =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0> >> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0uplo= ad; just makes the script less useful to other people.
> > =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0> >>
> > =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0> >> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0-Rob= in
> > =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0> >>
> > =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0> >> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0-- > > =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0> >> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0They= say: =EF=BF=BD"The first AIs will be built by the military as
> > =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0> >> weapons."
> > =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0> >> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0And = I'm =EF=BF=BDthinking: =EF=BF=BD"Does it even occur to you to try = for
> > =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0something
> > =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0> >> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0othe= r =EF=BF=BDthan =EF=BF=BDthe default =EF=BF=BDoutcome?" =EF=BF=BDSee > > =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0> >> [7][11]http://shrunklink.com/cdiz
> > =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0> >> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0[8][= 12]h= ttp://www.digitalkingdom.org/~rlpowell/ ***
> > =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0> >> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0[9][= 13]http://www.lojban.o= rg/
> > =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0> >>
> > =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0> >> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0To u= nsubscribe from this list, send mail to
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> > =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0> >> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0with= the subject unsubscribe, or go to
> > =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0> >> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0[11]= [15]http://www.lo= jban.org/lsg2/, or if
> > =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0> >> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0you&= #39;re really stuck, send mail to
> > =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0[12][16]secretary@lojban.org for
> > =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0> >> help.
> > =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0> >>
> > =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0> >> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0--
> > =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0> >> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0mu'o mi= 'e .aionys.
> > =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0> >>
> > =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0> >> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0.i.a'o.= e'e ko klama le bende pe denpa bu
> > =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0> >>
> > =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0> >> =C2=A0 =C2=A0--
> > =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0> >> =C2=A0 =C2=A0mu'o mi'e = .aionys.
> > =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0> >>
> > =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0> >> =C2=A0 =C2=A0.i.a'o.e'e= ko klama le bende pe denpa bu
> > =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0> >>
> > =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0> >> References
> > =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0> >>
> > =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0> >> =C2=A0 =C2=A0Visible links
> > =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0> >> =C2=A0 =C2=A01.
> > =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0[17]http://teddyb.org/= rlp/tiki-index.php?page=3DMass+Upload+To+Smart.FM
> > =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0> >> =C2=A0 =C2=A02. mailto:[18]eyeonus@gmail.com > > =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0> >> =C2=A0 =C2=A03. mailto:[19]rlpowell@digit= alkingdom.org
> > =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0> >> =C2=A0 =C2=A04. [20]http://smart.fm/
> > =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0> >> =C2=A0 =C2=A05. [21]http://smart.fm/
> > =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0> >> =C2=A0 =C2=A06. [22]http://develo= per.smart.fm/forum/read/67134
> > =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0> >> =C2=A0 =C2=A07. [23]http://shrunklink.com/cdiz
> > =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0> >> =C2=A0 =C2=A08. [24]http://www.digi= talkingdom.org/~rlpowell/
> > =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0> >> =C2=A0 =C2=A09. [25]http://www.lojban.org/
> > =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0> >> =C2=A0 10. mailto:[26]lojban-list-re= quest@lojban.org
> > =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0> >> =C2=A0 11. [27]http://www.lojban.org/lsg2/ > > =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0> >> =C2=A0 12. mailto:[28]secretary@lojban.org=
> > =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0> >
> > =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0> > --
> > =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0> > They say: =C2=A0"The first AIs= will be built by the military as weapons."
> > =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0> > And I'm =C2=A0thinking: =C2=A0&= quot;Does it even occur to you to try for something
> > =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0> > other =C2=A0than =C2=A0the default = =C2=A0outcome?" =C2=A0See
> > =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0[29]http://shrunklink.com/cdiz
> > =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0> > [30]http://www.digitalkingdom.org/~rlpo= well/ ***
> > =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0[31]http://www.lojban.org/
> > =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0> >
> > =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0> >
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> > =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0[33]http://www.lojban.org/lsg2/, or if
> > =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0> > you're really stuck, send mail = to [34]secretary@= lojban.org for help.
> > =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0> >
> > =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0> >
> > =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0>
> > =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0>
> > =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0> --
> > =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0> mu'o mi'e .aionys.
> > =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0>
> > =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0> .i.a'o.e'e ko klama le bende pe = denpa bu
> > =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0>
> > =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0>
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> > =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0> you're really stuck, send mail to [3= 7]secretary@lojba= n.org for help.
> > =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0>
> >
> > =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0--
> > =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0They say: =C2=A0"The first AIs will be b= uilt by the military as weapons."
> > =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0And I'm =C2=A0thinking: =C2=A0"Does = it even occur to you to try for something
> > =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0other =C2=A0than =C2=A0the default =C2=A0outc= ome?" =C2=A0See [38]http://shrunklink.com/cdiz
> > =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0[39]http://www.digitalkingdom.org/~rlpowell/ = ***
> > =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0[40]http://www.lojban.org/
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> > =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0or if
> > =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0you're really stuck, send mail to [43]secretary@lojban.org= for help.
> >
> > =C2=A0 =C2=A0--
> > =C2=A0 =C2=A0mu'o mi'e .aionys.
> >
> > =C2=A0 =C2=A0.i.a'o.e'e ko klama le bende pe denpa bu
> >
> > References
> >
> > =C2=A0 =C2=A0Visible links
> > =C2=A0 =C2=A01. mailto:rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org
> > =C2=A0 =C2=A02. mailto:rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org
> > =C2=A0 =C2=A03. http://developer.smart.fm/forum/read/67134
> > =C2=A0 =C2=A04. ht= tp://smart.fm/
> > =C2=A0 =C2=A05. http://teddyb.org/rlp/tiki= -index.php?page=3DMass+Upload+To+Smart.FM
> > =C2=A0 =C2=A06. mailto:eyeonus@gmail.com
> > =C2=A0 =C2=A07. mailto:rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org
> > =C2=A0 =C2=A08. ht= tp://smart.fm/
> > =C2=A0 =C2=A09. ht= tp://smart.fm/
> > =C2=A0 10. http://developer.smart.fm/forum/read/67134
> > =C2=A0 11. http://shrunklink.com/cdiz
> > =C2=A0 12. http://www.digitalkingdom.org/~rlpowell/
> > =C2=A0 13. h= ttp://www.lojban.org/
> > =C2=A0 14. mailto:lojban-list-request@lojban.org
> > =C2=A0 15. http://www.lojban.org/lsg2/
> > =C2=A0 16. mailto:secretary@lojban.org
> > =C2=A0 17. http://teddyb.org/rlp/tiki-in= dex.php?page=3DMass+Upload+To+Smart.FM
> > =C2=A0 18. mailto:eyeonus@gmail.com
> > =C2=A0 19. mailto:rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org
> > =C2=A0 20. http://= smart.fm/
> > =C2=A0 21. http://= smart.fm/
> > =C2=A0 22. http://developer.smart.fm/forum/read/67134
> > =C2=A0 23. http://shrunklink.com/cdiz
> > =C2=A0 24. http://www.digitalkingdom.org/~rlpowell/
> > =C2=A0 25. h= ttp://www.lojban.org/
> > =C2=A0 26. mailto:lojban-list-request@lojban.org
> > =C2=A0 27. http://www.lojban.org/lsg2/
> > =C2=A0 28. mailto:secretary@lojban.org
> > =C2=A0 29. http://shrunklink.com/cdiz
> > =C2=A0 30. http://www.digitalkingdom.org/~rlpowell/
> > =C2=A0 31. h= ttp://www.lojban.org/
> > =C2=A0 32. mailto:lojban-list-request@lojban.org
> > =C2=A0 33. http://www.lojban.org/lsg2/
> > =C2=A0 34. mailto:secretary@lojban.org
> > =C2=A0 35. mailto:lojban-list-request@lojban.org
> > =C2=A0 36. http://www.lojban.org/lsg2/
> > =C2=A0 37. mailto:secretary@lojban.org
> > =C2=A0 38. http://shrunklink.com/cdiz
> > =C2=A0 39. http://www.digitalkingdom.org/~rlpowell/
> > =C2=A0 40. h= ttp://www.lojban.org/
> > =C2=A0 41. mailto:lojban-list-request@lojban.org
> > =C2=A0 42. http://www.lojban.org/lsg2/
> > =C2=A0 43. mailto:secretary@lojban.org
>
> --
> They say: =C2=A0"The first AIs will be built by the military as w= eapons."
> And I'm =C2=A0thinking: =C2=A0"Does it even occur to you to t= ry for something
> other =C2=A0than =C2=A0the default =C2=A0outcome?" =C2=A0See http://shrunklink.com/= cdiz
> http://www.digitalkingdom.org/~rlpowell/ *** http://www.lojban.org/
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