From eyeonus@gmail.com Wed Mar 10 11:10:23 2010 Received: from mail-wy0-f181.google.com ([74.125.82.181]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1NpRIN-0000Sx-SA for lojban-list@lojban.org; Wed, 10 Mar 2010 11:10:23 -0800 Received: by wyf28 with SMTP id 28so59936wyf.40 for ; Wed, 10 Mar 2010 11:10:09 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=f0XlIoCGrCyoMf7vMgf5ivRidWXcOzrpIpukBVbB/yY=; b=WD+yrq1vawnBqKoAdTeexyQynEYrJUHKfAHS1enQ2DSibChQLez7rbeliHRAJqJTmG 76JwmA1UomgOZ2w4CaVAG0kpMDY0BS1W109qk8B/KZkRe8UQ59iEMlKXMckKlTffVyQt 0JggwQVJYrpCcaxVKs7VLQB+WBib0tzxxz030= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=H8FEeYuk9LJOZzDZLERvphT9dlncdwVpAmytNARP0gK3w+BCERkFjOny8wXTRiEcCY EmsCFtq2DwnAvXZIwnaXoKjXsP4EjnXUJyl+1nP6TMaiS0CGxcRzYq5BJZS3Dgaf0VLA sGoofgoWKdtbPIPkjFu/sD+2+JygCfJb9/O4A= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.216.163.11 with SMTP id z11mr1301305wek.24.1268248209184; Wed, 10 Mar 2010 11:10:09 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <20100310174655.GC10526@digitalkingdom.org> References: <20100307174142.GI19073@digitalkingdom.org> <702226df1003071025u5813cff0p3a7e68d293dc40cb@mail.gmail.com> <20100307183748.GK19073@digitalkingdom.org> <702226df1003071203h5180399bvc8df5374c8b128c@mail.gmail.com> <20100307205027.GN19073@digitalkingdom.org> <702226df1003071356ia724ef3s3e213f480a3b6917@mail.gmail.com> <20100308015232.GP19073@digitalkingdom.org> <20100308015605.GQ19073@digitalkingdom.org> <702226df1003100643g39563acagba9f4b9c25d6a10b@mail.gmail.com> <20100310174655.GC10526@digitalkingdom.org> Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2010 12:10:09 -0700 Message-ID: <702226df1003101110m5fa812auf470e10e3d24db4c@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: [lojban] Re: mass-uploading? From: Jonathan Jones To: lojban-list@lojban.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=00163641780bfedaaf0481770b37 --00163641780bfedaaf0481770b37 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 On Wed, Mar 10, 2010 at 10:46 AM, Robin Lee Powell < rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org> wrote: > On Wed, Mar 10, 2010 at 07:43:57AM -0700, Jonathan Jones wrote: > > I just wanted to make sure that you were aware of something, as I'm > not > > certain that you are. > > There are actually three lessons on Smart.fm for the items: > > The all-inclusive lesson, which is to contain all the > > items: [1]http://smart.fm/goals/179543 > > The place-structure lesson, which to contain the bare > > gismu: [2]http://smart.fm/goals/179606 > > And the sumti lesson, which is to contain the gismu > > sumti: [3]http://smart.fm/goals/179607 > > I don't know that I can use my scripts to upload into those goals; I > was going to make my own, similar, lists. I also want to see what > studying feels like with the whole gismu list; if it's too tedious, > I may break it down into parts. > > All three of those goals have open collaboration, so you should be able to. Of course, it's easy to find out for certain: try it with a sample item. Looking at your script, the 5th argument is the list name. You could try using "Lojban gismu", the name of the all-inclusive goal, http://smart.fm/goals/179543. Alternatively, you may be able to adjust arg4 to take the ID number of a goal and pass "179543"? > > So, when you do the uploading, I ask that you please upload the > > appropriate items to the other two lessons as well. Also, do > > you want the third (part of speech) and fourth (.mp3 filename) > > columns when I send you the list back? > > Those can be added by a trivial script (search for "lo "; pick part > of speech based on that). > > Anything that can be done by a computer without too much trouble, > sohuld be. If you see regularities in what I gave you that could be > exploited to make a better list automatically, you should be telling > me about them. Spending human time when computer time will do is > just silly. > > I did tell you about the most prevalent pattern: "a(n) ... thing", and the desired alteration: "something..." As in: "a drunk thing" -> "something drunk" Another thing I've seen a lot of is too many "e"s. As in "a useer", which I take to be "a use-er" with the dash taken out. And another one I mentioned: "an express commenter" -> "an expresser of a comment" And: "a leap destination" -> "a destination of a leap" "a leap origin" -> "an origin of a leap" "a jump propulsion" -> "a propulsion of a jump" (Although this one I don't think can be done by computer, however, "a ... standard" -> "a standard of ..." ought to be.) I've gone through ~80% of the list already. All of the gismu have been double-checked, and all of the gismu sumti to {lo se rirni} as well, so at this point all that remains is the gismu sumti from {lo rirxe} on. In two (three?) days effort I've managed to get all but 1001 of 4876 items checked and edited, so I figure one more session and I'll be finished anyway, especially since most of the items don't need to be edited. I'll probably be able to knock out the last few after lunch, or at the least before lunch tomorrow. > -Robin > > > > To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to lojban-list-request@lojban.org > with the subject unsubscribe, or go to http://www.lojban.org/lsg2/, or if > you're really stuck, send mail to secretary@lojban.org for help. > > -- mu'o mi'e .aionys. .i.a'o.e'e ko klama le bende pe denpa bu --00163641780bfedaaf0481770b37 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
On Wed, Mar 10, 2010 at 10:46 AM, Robin Lee Powe= ll <rlp= owell@digitalkingdom.org> wrote:
On Wed, Mar 10, 2010 at 07:43:57AM -0700, Jonathan Jones = wrote:
> =A0 =A0I just wanted to make sure that you were aware of something, as= I'm not
> =A0 =A0certain that you are.
> =A0 =A0There are actually three lessons on Smart.fm for the items:
> =A0 =A0The all-inclusive lesson, which is to contain all the
> =A0 =A0items:=A0[1]http://smart.fm/goals/179543
> =A0 =A0The place-structure lesson, which to contain = the bare
> =A0 =A0gismu:=A0[2]http://smart.fm/goals/179606
> =A0 =A0And the sumti lesson, which is to contain the= gismu
> =A0 =A0sumti:=A0[3]http://smart.fm/goals/179607

I don't know that I can use my scripts to upload into those goals; I was going to make my own, similar, lists. =A0I also want to see what
studying feels like with the whole gismu list; if it's too tedious,
I may break it down into parts.

All three of those goals have= open collaboration, so you should be able to. Of course, it's easy to = find out for certain: try it with a sample item. Looking at your script, th= e 5th argument is the list name. You could try using "Lojban gismu&quo= t;, the name of the all-inclusive goal,=A0http://smart.fm/goals/179543. Alternatively, = you may be able to adjust arg4 to take the ID number of a goal and pass &qu= ot;179543"?
=A0
> =A0 =A0So, when you do the uploading, I ask that you please upload the=
> =A0 =A0appropriate items to the other two lessons as well. Also, do > =A0 =A0you want the third (part of speech) and fourth (.mp3 filename)<= br> > =A0 =A0columns when I send you the list back?

Those can be added by a trivial script (search for "lo "; p= ick part
of speech based on that).

Anything that can be done by a computer without too much trouble,
sohuld be. =A0If you see regularities in what I gave you that could be
exploited to make a better list automatically, you should be telling
me about them. =A0Spending human time when computer time will do is
just silly.

I did tell you about t= he most prevalent pattern: "a(n) ... thing", and the desired alte= ration: "something..."

As in: "a dr= unk thing" -> "something drunk"

Another thing I've seen a lot of is too many "= e"s. As in "a useer", which I take to be "a use-er"= ; with the dash taken out.

And another one I menti= oned:

"an express commenter" -> "an ex= presser of a=A0comment"

And:

"a leap destination" -> "a=A0destination =A0of a= =A0leap"
"a=A0leap=A0origin" -> "an origin of a leap"
"a jump propulsion" -> "a propulsion of a jump&qu= ot;
=A0(Although this one I don't think can be done by comput= er, however, "a ... standard" -> "a standard of ..."= ought to be.)

I've gone through ~80% of the list already. A= ll of the gismu have been double-checked, and all of the gismu sumti to {lo= se rirni} as well, so at this point all that remains is the gismu sumti fr= om {lo rirxe} =A0on.

In two (three?) days effort I've managed to get all= but 1001 of 4876 items checked and edited, so I figure one more session an= d I'll be finished anyway, especially since most of the items don't= need to be edited. I'll probably be able to knock out the last few aft= er lunch, or at the least before lunch tomorrow.
=A0
-Robin



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