From jjllambias@gmail.com Fri Mar 12 08:52:00 2010 Received: from mail-bw0-f219.google.com ([209.85.218.219]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Nq85b-0005UM-SB for lojban-list@lojban.org; Fri, 12 Mar 2010 08:51:59 -0800 Received: by bwz19 with SMTP id 19so1268807bwz.26 for ; Fri, 12 Mar 2010 08:51:49 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=IaFB0XLzLR+sHBT8FYlKryFkNEqkGx2zto5NgLAQ5tI=; b=FJ1WHwFCxw7BzbrXxXPJFu9mdKFODrRddzsW4C61C7JSa8D5J9/KMKt3gdSlJMoqGV 5+i8AIUAphzTA/Y0EekpeSIgpzP5GPNq3puRDBZ7DB/b0NeIpureJWVIAuDyG/7BjdGF XwCJiZalXhemBOWSlL85I6Y2HiuMnuvUfe1ZE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=rSE0rIGWiX6DSnXqbtNuXZZ6ZF6/njHAiq1Ue+fe3VQUKwuY3R9aR7ez2M0PSB/PMq UYJgil4Y97uIBZ5XcYuCjSKzUdCFSA8PXDsZWX0yQEnx4usFdUyrfExST8W0yTSumaNH lpyHXgsN7LNQEk5S/wwReLGyXzc2+jxPY1pq0= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.34.201 with SMTP id m9mr2058560bkd.118.1268412709425; Fri, 12 Mar 2010 08:51:49 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <96f789a61003120807n25ab92ffg65324a71ce1316cd@mail.gmail.com> References: <925d17561003120510w5268cea2sdbf61cc89932839d@mail.gmail.com> <96f789a61003120602s47cb9b94p20cf5cbd9776990c@mail.gmail.com> <925d17561003120611x3f71d5baydd1a8019b336eddb@mail.gmail.com> <702226df1003120753m45775e2avc18bf50b6bcff585@mail.gmail.com> <96f789a61003120807n25ab92ffg65324a71ce1316cd@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2010 13:51:49 -0300 Message-ID: <925d17561003120851pdc1f044p8113b857e7e25fce@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: [lojban] Re: cusku - say or express? From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jorge_Llamb=EDas?= To: lojban-list@lojban.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, Mar 12, 2010 at 1:07 PM, Michael Turniansky wrote: > =A0If I say "To be or not to be" in the bathroom in the dead > of night, that's still a bacru, but not a cusku. You can still cusku something just to yourself though. A better example of pure bacru might be some linguistic sound without any meaning, like "ba be bi bo bu". >=A0Not all se bacru are > se cusku, not all se cusku are se bacru. =A0But some are both. =A0The set= s > are not disjoint. Right. I would say the relationship between them is something like: ko'a bacru ko'e =3D ko'a cusku ko'e zi'o lo voksa mu'o mi'e xorxes