From lytlesw@gmail.com Sat Mar 13 14:47:49 2010 Received: from mail-yw0-f199.google.com ([209.85.211.199]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Nqa7T-0001Wa-8P for lojban-list@lojban.org; Sat, 13 Mar 2010 14:47:49 -0800 Received: by ywh37 with SMTP id 37so1865435ywh.2 for ; Sat, 13 Mar 2010 14:47:37 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=W8YZEnEJMvcnuZ3ZsQO31Zfyc6hPsg5ni77W/HlOG5g=; b=g+mwUOzvYcIA73VWS3b5k5aeVCEgyJIa54VjqwjSO8EnnTgzpDZ4j+YkQq4jT5+yAw Triz9khx0x08bIsQnokXYLB0ezLCmpD7Dzlhu1T22cexwHtYvQH3IGN2ZSrT9psw5yJG cJSZIVd7oKUmVPSHfOTM5mldDS4V8lEQ0kats= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=RQK6o/H+e7z0C/wfSGVuAI43eqJj07JHewAbvK6UpeknvwQ9gzVr0t9s+4iKv/Q+co dmkp+/qBIiVr+Q29P5Xs566onf8gdpfXwT1WV1t4/WcgIFCILzA2ytYkILiO9L2I1JZ8 INyQwg1b2mrTsz+/rO35Tv37a8wFxHoUSwNyg= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.101.132.16 with SMTP id j16mr4390818ann.202.1268520456990; Sat, 13 Mar 2010 14:47:36 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <20100313213001.GB25330@digitalkingdom.org> References: <20100312183050.GJ10385@digitalkingdom.org> <20100312192042.GN10385@digitalkingdom.org> <925d17561003121145x53ade2a3sdf2c6d443cce8854@mail.gmail.com> <20100312195727.GO10385@digitalkingdom.org> <925d17561003121311m422cf3bbjf82ee369a9b6c33b@mail.gmail.com> <1268429293.26304.3.camel@thomas> <121832.27670.qm@web50401.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <702226df1003131143l278d2c46lbdfcf548e0d172ff@mail.gmail.com> <925d17561003131226n5303477h1907741037570f1e@mail.gmail.com> <20100313213001.GB25330@digitalkingdom.org> Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2010 17:47:36 -0500 Message-ID: <249d5b951003131447v7a09dc3aobf985dc2f4f54810@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: [lojban] Re: cusku - say or express? From: MorphemeAddict To: lojban-list@lojban.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016e68ee2073ab1b30481b66f1a --0016e68ee2073ab1b30481b66f1a Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Robin, How many native English speakers have no problem at all with the say/talk distinction? I don't. Maybe you and Jonathan are the only exceptions, and i= t makes no sense to change a keyword for the sake of two people out of a much larger community. I prefer 'say' for "cusku". (or even better: 'cusku' for "cusku".) stevo On Sat, Mar 13, 2010 at 4:30 PM, Robin Lee Powell < rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org> wrote: > On Sat, Mar 13, 2010 at 05:26:44PM -0300, Jorge Llamb=C3=ADas wrote: > > On Sat, Mar 13, 2010 at 4:43 PM, Jonathan Jones > > wrote: > > > > > > I do feel that I should put my two cents in at this point. > > > > > > In the Smart.fm lesson, the keywords at this point are: cusku - > > > express (Changed from "say" by Robin. Approved by me for reasons > > > of semantic confusion which I've already expressed.) > > > > How come you had "say" in the first place? "Express" is the bad > > keyword that the gi'uste has. Whoever decided to use "say" instead > > had the right understanding of "cusku". > > I'm not sure where you're confused. Only two native English > speakers have spoken up on this issue, me and Jonathan, and we've > both said "say/talk is too confusing for flashcard use; one of them > has to change". > > -Rabin > > -- > They say: "The first AIs will be built by the military as weapons." > And I'm thinking: "Does it even occur to you to try for something > other than the default outcome?" See http://shrunklink.com/cdiz > http://www.digitalkingdom.org/~rlpowell/ *** http://www.lojban.org/ > > > To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to > lojban-list-request@lojban.org > with the subject unsubscribe, or go to http://www.lojban.org/lsg2/, or if > you're really stuck, send mail to secretary@lojban.org for help. > > --0016e68ee2073ab1b30481b66f1a Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Robin,
How many native English speakers have no problem at all with the say/t= alk distinction? I don't. Maybe you and Jonathan are the only exception= s, and it makes no sense to change a keyword for the sake of two people out= of a much larger community.
I prefer 'say' for "cusku". (or even better: 'cu= sku' for "cusku".)
=C2=A0
stevo

On Sat, Mar 13, 2010 at 4:30 PM, Robin Lee Powel= l <rlpo= well@digitalkingdom.org> wrote:
On Sat, Mar 13, 2010 at 05:26:44PM -0300, Jorge Llamb=C3= =ADas wrote:
> On Sat, Mar 13, 2010 at 4:43 PM, Jonathan Jones
>= ; <eyeonus@gmail.com> wrote:=
> >
> > I do feel that I should put my two cents in at this point.
>= ; >
> > In the Smart.fm lesson, the keywords at this point are:= cusku -
> > express (Changed from "say" by Robin. Appro= ved by me for reasons
> > of semantic confusion which I've already expressed.)
><= br>> How come you had "say" in the first place? "Express&= quot; is the bad
> keyword that the gi'uste has. Whoever decided = to use "say" instead
> had the right understanding of "cusku".

I'm= not sure where you're confused. =C2=A0Only two native English
speak= ers have spoken up on this issue, me and Jonathan, and we've
both sa= id "say/talk is too confusing for flashcard use; one of them
has to change".

-Rabin

--
They say: =C2=A0"The first AIs will be bui= lt by the military as weapons."
And I'm =C2=A0thinking: =C2=A0&= quot;Does it even occur to you to try for something
other =C2=A0than =C2= =A0the default =C2=A0outcome?" =C2=A0See http://shrunklink.com/cdiz
http= ://www.digitalkingdom.org/~rlpowell/ *** http://www.lojban.org/


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