From totus@rogers.com Mon Mar 15 17:39:47 2010 Received: from n8.bullet.mail.ac4.yahoo.com ([76.13.13.236]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with smtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1NrKou-0000kx-SW for lojban-list@lojban.org; Mon, 15 Mar 2010 17:39:46 -0700 Received: from [76.13.13.25] by n8.bullet.mail.ac4.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 16 Mar 2010 00:39:31 -0000 Received: from [68.142.237.90] by t4.bullet.mail.ac4.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 16 Mar 2010 00:39:31 -0000 Received: from [66.196.97.153] by t6.bullet.re3.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 16 Mar 2010 00:39:31 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp206.mail.re3.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 16 Mar 2010 00:39:31 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 485513.17709.bm@omp206.mail.re3.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 89992 invoked by uid 60001); 16 Mar 2010 00:39:31 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=rogers.com; s=s1024; t=1268699971; bh=5l9EvOqFrrNj6u9Pb5ibvLwOFZWOY1vPpiuHMlQcktM=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=pDylOdRlcsLEf/hRwn94ZDxaUKAE9v3ErGXM9L/bjocjAnVjF2wEn7qM6R45ybByW713kJzg58y9+bvsXLQTXIr90gJEgrKxPJW/wXDw+2iEN+mZmJV72Y73YavMclX4uDzqSuuHjwALsAL5CPFLG20Yll2xNh+zhCToGCsgUZM= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=rogers.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=3A4BdDjSJZb7VstTJM+QVwRFgzSaKQ29AIesEjZKa+VkcEEuO/KhJg3tlpyMM2ih3daKudTARaMcGcrBLBL5VdLbfFoiwuIJCbEOUG/k/Gw+gl8ZuCmAOfQWjDF0L07zVDSpu3Wp9h3VvOjF+Ts9WCWyI17n/NG6RN9Gqf6XC40=; Message-ID: <386172.89756.qm@web88001.mail.re2.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: Vemb8EAVM1nk2w3VPC4loQ8TlOJ46h6rwx1KY6Pg7.ovEBr oHrtfHcXTVsuN5F2.g4065Uc50I0VhpAwTtoTXdWtJqDvXozW2TghghthvtX M.6dJHPPtmqCel.X6Ihee12MmoHU_JAMHlMZEH61yrfSCJeZ0M2a.P0UknjV c348gJRSFRW.EbccTAIuU_sntDG8Re9g8dX0PlmLL2dySQjXvL.elab8ekEc gQYeCKUHLWXhndXxiecGlCbu9Tb6pWEK881mp3aFaCf8UF.fh5eKrOpwNKRu J3j_IOiSqNrIdJkN7xRG8hdOa Received: from [99.229.170.85] by web88001.mail.re2.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 15 Mar 2010 17:39:31 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/324.3 YahooMailWebService/0.8.100.260964 References: Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2010 17:39:31 -0700 (PDT) From: "A. PIEKARSKI" Subject: Re: [lojban] Lojbanising words? To: lojban-list@lojban.org In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello, and welcome to lojbanistan!=0A=0AThere are various acceptable approa= ches.=C2=A0 For geographical entites, =0AI prefer to lojbanize=C2=A0its off= ficial name i.e. in the language of of its country.=C2=A0 =0ASo, Athens wou= ld be http://jbovlaste.lojban.org/dict/atinas, =0Abased on the Greek =CE=91= =CE=B8=CE=AE=CE=BD=CE=B1, Athina.=0A=C2=A0=0AIn this approach, 'Canada' bei= ng a bilingual country, has two acceptable =0Apronunciations: kenyDAS and K= Enydys.=0A=0A'S=C3=A3o Paulo' requires a compromise i.e. lojbanizing as clo= sely as possible:=0Ahttp://jbovlaste.lojban.org/dict/saupaulos=0A=C2=A0=0AT= here is no justification=C2=A0for basing names on=C2=A0their English pronun= ciation unless =0AEnglish is si the local language=C2=A0.=0A=C2=A0=0Atotus= =0A=0A=0A=0A=0A----- Original Message ----=0A> From: CQuake =0A> To: lojban-list@lojban.org=0A> Sent: Mon, March 15, 2010 4:27:= 06 PM=0A> Subject: [lojban] Lojbanising words?=0A> =0A> =0ALojbanising word= s?=0A=0AAuthor: CQuake=0A=0AHello, all,=0Afirst of all, =0A> let me introdu= ce myself: I'm Sabrina, Brazilian woman which is actually living =0A> in th= e heart of the green heart of Austria: the tiny and beautiful city of Graz.= =0A> Pleasure to meet you! =3D)=0A=0AActually I'm learning Lojban via Lojb= an for =0A> Beginners, and I (already) have a doubt, about lojbanising word= s: =0A=0AAthens =0A> - Athina, for instance, becomes .atinas. In Portuguese= we use to say A-TEH-nas, =0A> and in Italian, A-TEH-ne. So how should I lo= jbanise these words? Does it exist a =0A> sort of common rule?=0A=0AThank y= ou, =0A> guys.=0A=0ACiao,=0ASabrina.=0A=0A=0A=0A=0ATo unsubscribe from this= list, =0A> send mail to > href=3D"mailto:lojban-list-request@lojban.org">l= ojban-list-request@lojban.org=0Awith =0A> the subject unsubscribe, or go to= > target=3D_blank >http://www.lojban.org/lsg2/, or if=0Ayou're really stuc= k, =0A> send mail to > href=3D"mailto:secretary@lojban.org">secretary@lojba= n.org for help.