From dag.odenhall@gmail.com Wed Mar 03 15:39:11 2010 Received: from mail-fx0-f222.google.com ([209.85.220.222]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Nmy9h-00064B-JF for lojban-list@lojban.org; Wed, 03 Mar 2010 15:39:11 -0800 Received: by fxm22 with SMTP id 22so2204645fxm.26 for ; Wed, 03 Mar 2010 15:38:59 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:reply-to:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=r8SmIZyvF3ogbhaWrhQ/P5QHlNsuJX8+M5Ol6ckBFs0=; b=Uy+KPOAsaCCUQs7YOYC2CjtqD4iS3whQdiofea5tVPvNTcCGcaAld+R+f7YzD31epO Y0GqSMznShCGsHICIiAvcv3sher74bxzuI6z7bhPTsu+Ips+Fo0yuw684jNdrMw4dYRB yI5t2yIXXyl+ELQy6QMpGESnk51jjnZGODxUY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:reply-to:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=VYN0YbKV59yxmBkN4sJ2qR2sItf7xeFYhToWvp2PPDrrAQAnjBI22tcPH7SdMlnNGH Rbk58WZpLjSr0RqVMm67Ttphe8IIpPmSW6lXk3cTkxNV68zon0jnMBZoaq1WqYrssRyt TLifvK+si6RmTqPdo3pNGqO8fYk60hOa23FzY= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.103.21.13 with SMTP id y13mr1395680mui.15.1267659537914; Wed, 03 Mar 2010 15:38:57 -0800 (PST) Reply-To: dag.odenhall@gmail.com In-Reply-To: <702226df1003031536n376e5d09r1c817a5d0b67ceb2@mail.gmail.com> References: <20100303220721.GX1159@digitalkingdom.org> <702226df1003031457i5f3bafe0w7df2dfa49ad6dc0b@mail.gmail.com> <20100303230307.GA1159@digitalkingdom.org> <702226df1003031510l1c53a9e1yc192b2ffdf99cbeb@mail.gmail.com> <20100303231339.GC1159@digitalkingdom.org> <702226df1003031536n376e5d09r1c817a5d0b67ceb2@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 4 Mar 2010 00:38:57 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban] Re: More espeak words, please. From: Dag Odenhall To: lojban-list@lojban.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Did you miss these? http://www.lojban.org/tiki/Simple+gismu+B http://www.lojban.org/publications/wordlists/oblique_keywords.txt On Thu, Mar 4, 2010 at 12:36 AM, Jonathan Jones wrote: > > > On Wed, Mar 3, 2010 at 4:13 PM, Robin Lee Powell > wrote: >> >> On Wed, Mar 03, 2010 at 04:10:48PM -0700, Jonathan Jones wrote: >> > =A0 =A0The list of the items is finished, the definitions for Smart.fm= are >> > not. >> > =A0 =A0In point of fact, there are exactly three areas that are not >> > finished- the >> > =A0 =A0audio for the entries, >> >> Yep. >> >> > the simplified definitions for Smart.fm for about 70% of the >> > items, >> >> Trivially producable from jbofihe data. =A0I still want someone to >> explain to me why we're simplifying them in the first place? >> > Oi, I've already said why. The gismu definitions need to be simplified > because, 1) The definitions from the gismu list are, more often than not, > too long for Smart.fm's cards, so they need to be shortened to fit, and 2= ) > They non-vocal punctuation needs to be edited out. > > For this reason the definition for bakfu, which in the gismu list is "x1 = is > a bundle/package/cluster/clump/pack [shape/form] containing x2, held > together by x3", becomes "x1 is a bundle or pack containing x2 held toget= her > by x3" > The reason the sumti-fied gismu need to edited is because the phrasing > jbofi'e uses is quite often very awkward if not downright confusing. The > phrase jbofi'e returns for {lo te bakfu} is"any/some hold-er(s) of bundle= ", > which can easily be confused for "a person holding a bundle", which is > wrong, as the x5 of {bakfu} is "what is holding a pack together". > Quite a lot of the entries can be used almost as is, but they still need = to > be gone through for that very reason. > >> >> > and the adding of the items to Smart.fm with audio, which >> > apparently we are still not to do as Smart.fm hasn't added >> > "Lojban" to the language list yet. >> >> It's actually in the system now, just not in the right places. =A0:) >> I'm talking to them about it. >> >> -Robin >> >> -- >> They say: =A0"The first AIs will be built by the military as weapons." >> And I'm =A0thinking: =A0"Does it even occur to you to try for something >> other =A0than =A0the default =A0outcome?" =A0See http://shrunklink.com/c= diz >> http://www.digitalkingdom.org/~rlpowell/ *** http://www.lojban.org/ >> >> >> To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to lojban-list-request@lojban.o= rg >> with the subject unsubscribe, or go to http://www.lojban.org/lsg2/, or i= f >> you're really stuck, send mail to secretary@lojban.org for help. >> > > > > -- > mu'o mi'e .aionys. > > .i.a'o.e'e ko klama le bende pe denpa bu > >